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Old 04-29-2008, 12:04 AM   #31 (permalink)
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so now you think you are Noah?
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seriously, you completely ignore the things that dont agree with your "hoped" doom and gloom. according to your own posts islam only makes up about a fifth of the world. The rest aren't too eager to join up.
Right - but if you look at how societies and the media have become frightened of a violent Islamic backlash for any little criticism of Islam or the prophet Muhammad you should note that it is like the tail wagging the dog!

So, in effect, the muhajideen (soldiers of Al'lah who comprise a small minority of the 1.3 Billion Muslims) are pushing their influence and ideology onto host countries with no intent of assimilation. The event of 9/11 in America should not be taken lightly.

But then again, since you don't believe me you probably will not believe the following quotes and you probably think these guys are just joking and don't really mean what they say:

Muslim cleric values life??? Reuters 4/18/2004

"It's inevitable. Because several (attacks) are being prepared by several groups," Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad told Lisbon's Publica magazine from London where he is based.
He added: "We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents. Only between Muslims and unbelievers! And the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity!."
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CAIR Board Member Imam Siraj Wahaj, an un-indicted co-conspirator in the first World Trade Center bombing, has called for replacing the American government with an Islamic caliphate, and warned that America will crumble unless it accepts Islam.
*Anti-CAIR* Defending America from the Council on American-Islamic Relations
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Omar Ahmad, Co-founder of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)
5/16/2004

"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth."
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=6473

Ibrahim Hooper, CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) Spokesperson
AP - 6/11/2004

"I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like
the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in
the future. ...But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm going to do it through education."

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We aren't even close to a one world government.

there is no mark of the beast.

their isn't some super charismatic leader who is uniting the world.

etc, etc, etc
Not Yet.
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Old 04-29-2008, 07:55 AM   #32 (permalink)
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That's a Good One tommyjones!



Right - (this is you agreeing that you completly ignore everything that doesn't agree with your doom and gloom theory)but if you look at how societies and the media have become frightened of a violent Islamic backlash for any little criticism of Islam or the prophet Muhammad you should note that it is like the tail wagging the dog!

So, in effect, the muhajideen (soldiers of Al'lah who comprise a small minority of the 1.3 Billion Muslims) are pushing their influence and ideology onto host countries with no intent of assimilation. The event of 9/11 in America should not be taken lightly.

But then again, since you don't believe me you probably will not believe the following quotes and you probably think these guys are just joking and don't really mean what they say:

Muslim cleric values life??? Reuters 4/18/2004

"It's inevitable. Because several (attacks) are being prepared by several groups," Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad told Lisbon's Publica magazine from London where he is based.
He added: "We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents. Only between Muslims and unbelievers! And the life of an unbeliever has no value. It has no sanctity!."
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CAIR Board Member Imam Siraj Wahaj, an un-indicted co-conspirator in the first World Trade Center bombing, has called for replacing the American government with an Islamic caliphate, and warned that America will crumble unless it accepts Islam.
*Anti-CAIR* Defending America from the Council on American-Islamic Relations
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Omar Ahmad, Co-founder of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR)
5/16/2004

"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth."
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles...le.asp?ID=6473

Ibrahim Hooper, CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) Spokesperson
AP - 6/11/2004

"I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like
the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in
the future. ...But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm going to do it through education."



Not Yet (and this is you agreeing that none of the precursers to the second coming are close to happening).
the red parts are your logic sneaking through, the rest of it is a combination of your hate and fear.
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Old 04-29-2008, 10:55 AM   #33 (permalink)
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the red parts are your logic sneaking through, the rest of it is a combination of your hate and fear.
So what the Islamic cleric stated and the spokesmen of CAIR stated all do not seem to be hate and treason to you - but because I expose them on this board I am the one that shows hate???

The only fear I have is for America's future because of the many people who remain in denial of the coming ideological clash between Islam and the West.
But, if that is what is meant to happen it shall be and God's Will shall unfold as it has been prophesied.

BTW: No matter what happens on earth, there is no fear upon those who are God's Children and who are eternally saved by God's Grace through the Atoning Blood of Yeshua HaMashiach. I hope that someday you will know what it means to know Christ as your personal Lord and Saviour.
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Old 04-29-2008, 12:48 PM   #34 (permalink)
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So what the Islamic cleric stated and the spokesmen of CAIR stated all do not seem to be hate and treason to you - but because I expose them on this board I am the one that shows hate???

The only fear I have is for America's future because of the many people who remain in denial of the coming ideological clash between Islam and the West.
But, if that is what is meant to happen it shall be and God's Will shall unfold as it has been prophesied.

BTW: No matter what happens on earth, there is no fear upon those who are God's Children and who are eternally saved by God's Grace through the Atoning Blood of Yeshua HaMashiach. I hope that someday you will know what it means to know Christ as your personal Lord and Saviour.

what a lot of radicals say is hate, what you do is also based inyour hate and fear. while the two are similar they are independant.


and i hope that someday you realize that you are following a hardly beievable fairy tale, and that on that day you truely take responsibility for your own EVERYTHING.
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you two are idiotic. Even if you accept the propheses of destruction, you know htat it takes FOREVER for governments to do anything. The UN has been around for how long and they have done nothing dastardly. This one world religion, has it even been convieved of yet? as far as i can tell there are tons of religions and sects that have millions of followers. thats a far cry from 1 in the world. you speak of a unified world that predicts this appocolypse but then give examples of people who are devisive and want to cause world chaos, these aren't the uniter who would be the anti-christ......so even if your book contains the correct end of the world prediction, according to your story, we aint nowhere close to it yet.
Thank you! How close are we to it TJ?
How long does it take to unify the world into a one world religion/government? The wheels have been in motion for years and look what's happened in a short time. Please tell me your reference source on this.
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the only people that are worried about this kind of stuff are you chicken little types who want the world to end to prove you are reading the book right.
the fact of the matter is that doom sayers like yourself have always been around, and are ALWAYS discredited. I mean, do you have the faintest idea of how many religious have come before you prophasizing the end of the world? well it aint happened yet.
The Bible speaks about you TJ: Know what a scoffer is? (2 Peter 3 vs 3, 4, 5, 9). "First of all you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, where is this coming he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation. But they deliberately forgot that long ago by God's word the heavens existed and the earth was formed....The Lord is not slow in keeping his promises as some understsand slowness. He is patient with you not wanting anyone to perish but everyone to come to repentance".

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all religions are equally valid, as they are all based on human interpretaions of something we can all agree that humans have no concept of.
99% correct TJ. All religions except one.
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there is no mark of the beast.
their isn't some super charismatic leader who is uniting the world.
You've taken the mark of the beast whether you know it or not. The mark is simply an association with satan as opposed to God.
Sorry, wrong again TJ. He and his "father" are at work as we speak.
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and i hope that someday you realize that you are following a hardly beievable fairy tale, and that on that day you truely take responsibility for your own EVERYTHING.
I asked before; prove the book wrong. Prove that God doesn't exist. Just because you DON'T believe in Him doesn't mean that He doesn't exist.
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Thank you! How close are we to it TJ?
How long does it take to unify the world into a one world religion/government? The wheels have been in motion for years and look what's happened in a short time. Please tell me your reference source on this.

The Bible speaks about you TJ: Know what a scoffer is? (2 Peter 3 vs 3, 4, 5, 9). "First of all you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say, where is this coming he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation. But they deliberately forgot that long ago by God's word the heavens existed and the earth was formed....The Lord is not slow in keeping his promises as some understsand slowness. He is patient with you not wanting anyone to perish but everyone to come to repentance".


99% correct TJ. All religions except one.

You've taken the mark of the beast whether you know it or not. The mark is simply an association with satan as opposed to God.
Sorry, wrong again TJ. He and his "father" are at work as we speak.

I asked before; prove the book wrong. Prove that God doesn't exist. Just because you DON'T believe in Him doesn't mean that He doesn't exist.
your book was written by men IT IS NOT THE WORK OF GOD.


all the rest is a bunch of BS scare tactics.

all religions are equally valid.
the end of times are not near, at least not by revalations criteria

just becasue you believe in it doesn't make it true.

the mark of the beast is a mark, not just an agreement, you should really read your own book.

as soon as you prove that the lochness monster doesn't exist i will get right on that god thing......
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