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Old 05-08-2008, 12:29 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I've never said keep religion/theology discussions out of school, as long as all are treated equally. The problem is how do you feasibly give the same credence and discussion to every Religious Belief (which is equally valid). Because there are some one here who would be ok with Christianity being taught, but no way would they accept Satanism (which is equally valid).
We don't give the same credence and discussion to every historical period, or inventor, or philisophy, or every book ever written..... Even if you're talking a theology class, there's no need to include everything, just what's asked for.
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We don't give the same credence and discussion to every historical period, or inventor, or philisophy, or every book ever written..... Even if you're talking a theology class, there's no need to include everything, just what's asked for.
Yet you cant lend more credence to one belief than the other, no matter how great you feel your belief is.
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I've asked, and no one seems to be able to answer - What part of the scientific method does any theory of the origin of life, or of human evolution from other species is out there?
lets say creationism was taught .... all you'd need to say is 'god did it' and then you can move along to actual science.

seriously, when you're trying to figure the actions of an entity who, by definition, we will never comprehend, why even bother trying to put it into a school?
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lets say creationism was taught .... all you'd need to say is 'god did it' and then you can move along to actual science.

seriously, when you're trying to figure the actions of an entity who, by definition, we will never comprehend, why even bother trying to put it into a school?
So, do you comprehend the science behind the origin of life? (hint, it's a trick question, there is no scientific explaination)
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Yet you cant lend more credence to one belief than the other, no matter how great you feel your belief is.
Teaching about it isn't lending credence to it, is it? Otherwise, we have wholesale government endorsement of "Romeo and Juliet", and everything in it.

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Is it just teaching ABOUT something, without establishing it?
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So, do you comprehend the science behind the origin of life? (hint, it's a trick question, there is no scientific explaination)
for all intents and purposes, it doesn't matter. You can't teach religion like science because there is nothing to test.

You can perform a litmus test to determine the acidity of water, but you can't test for god.

also, there is no scientific explaination that we know of yet. The church also said the sun revolved around us (good job religion), but we know now that the church was talking out of its uninformed ass.
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So, do you comprehend the science behind the origin of life? (hint, it's a trick question, there is no scientific explaination)
so what exactly do you propose they teach in science class?

if 'god did it' then that's all there is to know. It's a 1 minute, one time only class at best.

edit: also, there are already free classes held every sunday to discuss god/science.

feel free to go to them, and kindly keep something wholely untestable out of the science classroom.
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Teaching about it isn't lending credence to it, is it? Otherwise, we have wholesale government endorsement of "Romeo and Juliet", and everything in it.

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Is it just teaching ABOUT something, without establishing it?
No problemo, as long as while teaching about Christianity (including Mormonism ) you also teach about ; Judaism, Muslim (poor Italian ), Hindu, Wiccan, Satanism, Scientology, Deism, and Secularism/Atheism (according to you)
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for all intents and purposes, it doesn't matter. You can't teach religion like science because there is nothing to test.

You can perform a litmus test to determine the acidity of water, but you can't test for god.

also, there is no scientific explaination that we know of yet. The church also said the sun revolved around us (good job religion), but we know now that the church was talking out of its uninformed ass.
You can't teach evolution like science then, because where it comes to humans, there is NO test, no proof, no feasibility. Evolution has nothing that religion does not have (faithful followers for no provable reason).
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so what exactly do you propose they teach in science class?

if 'god did it' then that's all there is to know. It's a 1 minute, one time only class at best.

edit: also, there are already free classes held every sunday to discuss god/science.

feel free to go to them, and kindly keep something wholely untestable out of the science classroom.
Then keep that "untestable" big bang theory, and evolution, and abiogenesis, etc., out of the classroom too.
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