Genesis 22

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by Nucklesack

If God knows Everything, and if God knows what your going to do, that by definition means you dont have free will. otherwise you could do something other than what God saw you do, thereby meaning God doesnt know everything.

I don't know why people are having problems understanding this. It's really really simple.

[toppick08 (Premo)]

God knows He gave us all free will........

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

I don't know why people are having problems understanding this. It's really really simple.

Let's say you're driving down the road, and come to a cross roads. God knows you'll turn left. God knows you'll turn right. God knows you'll go straight. These are the choices you have, and He knows everything about everything that will happen regardless of your choice. But, it's your choice. YOUR will determines left, right, or straight. And, the next cross road.........

It's really very simple.

[Nucklesack]

Originally Posted by This_person

He knows the outcome of every choice you could make. He knows if you will respond, and how that will go. He knows if you won't, and how that will go. He knows if you'll "find" Him, and He knows if you won't, and what the results of that will be. He knows He gave you free will to determine these things, and what will happen if you do, and if you don't do, everything. There's not just His knowledge of what exactly WILL happen, there's His knowledge of everything that could happen from every decision everyone makes every day. And, then, the results of the followup decisions. And so on, and so on.......

Because he is omnipotent does God know what you'll do?

If he knows then you do not have free will, mask it how you want but if it is already known what your "choice" will be, you do not have the ability to choose differently (its not a choice)

If God doesnt know, then he's not omnipotent

[libby]

This point of yours has been addressed by greater minds than SOMD can probably produce (no offense). So, if you are interested in a thoughtful, well-reasoned answer then try Aquinas or Augustine.

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by libby

This point of yours has been addressed by greater minds than SOMD can probably produce (no offense). So, if you are interested in a thoughtful, well-reasoned answer then try Aquinas or Augustine.

I already know the answer.

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Nucklesack

Because he is omnipotent does God know what you'll do?

If he knows then you do not have free will, mask it how you want but if it is already known what your "choice" will be, you do not have the ability to choose differently (its not a choice)

If God doesnt know, then he's not omnipotent

He knows the choice I have, and every potential outcome of the choice I make, regardless of which choice it is. That Makes Him omnipotent, and provides me free will.

[Nucklesack]

Originally Posted by This_person

He knows the choice I have, and every potential outcome of the choice I make, regardless of which choice it is. That Makes Him omnipotent, and provides me free will.

Does he know which turn you'll make? (its a yes or no)

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Nucklesack

Does he know which turn you'll make? (its a yes or no)

Yes, regardless of which one it is.

[Xaquin44]

knowing potential outcomes does not make one omnipotent.

knowing the outcome does.