Genesis 22

[libby]

Okay, you taught your son Algebra. He takes a test, and gets "whatever" for a grade, passes or fails, it matters not. Because you knew all of the answers it means you cheated and his study and work had no bearing at all on the outcome.

[Xaquin44]

what?

[libby]

Okay, so it's not perfect, but I thought you might get the point. God has taught us what to do to "get a perfect score" a.k.a. Heaven. He knows all of the possible outcomes of each mistake, how much each "equation"/choice is worth, in the plan of your salvation. That's the idea I'm shooting for here. Anyway, does it mean that you and your son cheated? Does it mean he didn't take the test with his own knowledge and desire/lack of desire to succeed? No, he worked each equation with the info you gave him and earned his own score.
I'm wracking my brain trying to think of a parallel human experience. Pathetic? I suppose, but it's fun trying.

[Xaquin44]

knowing possible outcomes is not the same as knowing what will happen and never being wrong.

[libby]

and all knowing is not the same as all doing

[Xaquin44]

it is in this case ....

[libby]

is not

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by libby

is not

well .... except what I'm saying is logical and correct and what you're saying is wishful thinking that has no basis in logic or fact.

[Nucklesack]

Originally Posted by libby

and all knowing is not the same as all doing

And your changing the conversation again. No where did i state if God saw you turn right, then he's forcing you to turn right.

But God forsaw you make turn to the Right, you do not have the free will to turn Left.

He/She's God, she's all knowing/all seeing/all everthing, how could you turn Left ¿

It's an example and contradiction that faithers dont like to discuss, because they want to "think" they have free will, when they can't truly have it if they believe God to be who they think he/she is.

Eventually we'll get either a "God works in mysterious ways" (or variation) because the answer to the question isnt one a believer wants to address

[toppick08 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

well .... except what I'm saying is logical and correct and what you're saying is wishful thinking that has no basis in logic or fact.