Genesis 22

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by toppick08

Are you Presbyterian.??

nope, just handsome!

[toppick08 (Premo)]

[quote=Xaquin44;2955118]nope, just handsome![/QUOTE]

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

you're missing out on the obvious (and easy) point.

by your own admission, it's already recorded. Add to that the fact that god can't be wrong, and that means that your fate is predetermined.

What I am saying is that God did not determine your fate; you are the one that decided what your fate would be.

It's just that God foreknows what you will have decided. That is not pre-determination by God in the sense that He was the one who made the decision for you. You made it yourself so you in fact you already would know what your eternal destiny will be at this point.

Lost - without Christ

Saved - through Christ

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[Nucklesack]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

you're missing out on the obvious (and easy) point.

by your own admission, it's already recorded. Add to that the fact that god can't be wrong, and that means that your fate is predetermined.

God works in mysterious ways, you can't impose human limitations upon God

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by Nucklesack

God works in mysterious ways, you can't impose human limitations upon God

Same response as given to Xaquin:

What I am saying is that God did not determine your fate; you are the one that decided what your fate would be.

It's just that God foreknows what you will have decided. That is not pre-determination by God in the sense that He was the one who made the decision for you. You made it yourself so you in fact you already would know what your eternal destiny will be at this point.

Lost - without Christ

Saved - through Christ

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

It's just that God foreknows what you will have decided. That is not pre-determination by God in the sense that He was the one who made the decision for you. You made it yourself so you in fact you already would know what your eternal destiny will be at this point.

I don't think you know what you're saying. You're just proving me right over and over.

"God foreknows what you will have decided"

oh kay. and since he can't be wrong, we're just filling things in until we die.

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

I don't think you know what you're saying. You're just proving me right over and over.

"God foreknows what you will have decided"

oh kay. and since he can't be wrong, we're just filling things in until we die.

The key word you keep using is Pre-determination.

Who did the determining of your fate?

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

The key word you keep using is Pre-determination.

Who did the determining of your fate?

god.

he recorded it before you were born apparently. and as he can't be wrong, we are forced to make his choices (as they have already been laid down).

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

god.

he recorded it before you were born apparently. and as he can't be wrong, we are forced to make his choices (as they have already been laid down).

Not True Xaquin. God desires that you, your son and family and all mankind would not perish but come to the Saving Knowledge that He offers through the Atoning Blood of Christ. It saddens God when His Offer is rejected.

God's enemy, Satan, is a deceiver and will continually do what he can to prevent people from opening their eyes to God's Truth. It is a spiritual battle between Good and Evil and the battle is for your soul.

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

Not True Xaquin. God desires that you, your son and family and all mankind would not perish but come to the Saving Knowledge that He offers through the Atoning Blood of Christ. It saddens God when His Offer is rejected.

then he shouldn't make it so.