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Old 05-20-2008, 02:32 PM   #221 (permalink)
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God forsaw you turn right, could you turn left?

How hard is that to follow?
Yes, I could. I have free will. See, it's easy.
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Old 05-20-2008, 02:33 PM   #222 (permalink)
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thats funny if I'm not born yet ....
Have you ever heard about the Book of Life? It is God's Record of all people who will ever live. Your name is there now. However, according to Revelation, Chapter 20, a person's name can be blotted out of the Book of Life when, during their lifetime, they chose to reject the only plan of Salvation offered to mankind through Christ's Atoning Blood. Do you or do you not want you, your son and family to have eternal life with God?
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Old 05-20-2008, 02:34 PM   #223 (permalink)
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Sorry Xaquin. You made that decision during your lifetime. From the beginning, God knew what decision you would end up making. .
Can God be wrong?

Yes = You have the Free Will to change the outcome of the decision that God knew i'd make
No = You cant have Free Will, otherwise God's knowledge of my decision would be wrong
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You are the one who sets your decision in stone and God has to honor your free-will decision. Yes, I repeat, God has to honor your free-will decision.
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Yes = You have the Free Will to change the outcome of the decision that God knew i'd make
No = You cant have Free Will, otherwise God's knowledge of my decision would be wrong
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That doesn't mean He will ever stop trying to convince you to accept Him - it's just that on Judgment Day you cannot stand before God and say that you were never warned of what would happen if you rejected His Son's Atonement that was available on your behalf - but that you rejected.
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Yes, I could. I have free will. See, it's easy.
God was wrong

See it's easy
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Can God be wrong?

Yes = You have the Free Will to change the outcome of the decision that God knew i'd make
No = You cant have Free Will, otherwise God's knowledge of my decision would be wrong

Can God be wrong?

Yes = You have the Free Will to change the outcome of the decision that God knew i'd make
No = You cant have Free Will, otherwise God's knowledge of my decision would be wrong

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God cannot be wrong about the decision that you make. He did not make the decision for you.
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Old 05-20-2008, 02:37 PM   #226 (permalink)
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plus he's saying things about a video, which is something that has already happened. Gods will is something that is going to happen.

The two examples are not similar and the movie example is wrong.
No, you just don't seem to understand the example.

God is the Alpha and the Omega. He always is, always was, always will be. Time is a meaningless issue for Him, as it is just one facet of the universe which He created. You can choose your actions, but He's already seen what you chose, like watching the movie of it to us (my basic, childlike understanding - the phrase I bet you take most from this post ).
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Old 05-20-2008, 02:39 PM   #227 (permalink)
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God cannot be wrong about the decision that you make. He did not make the decision for you.
Your changing the discussion, stay on track.

No one stated God made the decision, except for you. God forsaw your decision correct? Could you prove God's forseeing wrong, by making a different decision than what he already saw?
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Have you ever heard about the Book of Life? It is God's Record of all people who will ever live. Your name is there now. However, according to Revelation, Chapter 20, a person's name can be blotted out of the Book of Life when, during their lifetime, they chose to reject the only plan of Salvation offered to mankind through Christ's Atoning Blood. Do you or do you not want you, your son and family to have eternal life with God?
Well actually, I'm really getting the vibe that god is a total dick as he laid down all his laws 2k years ago and left them to a morally corrupt church and society that will use his "words" (note the complete lack of confirmation) to do whatever they please.

also, since he created 'everything' he created satan, which was a pretty dickish move.

so to answer your question, no.

eternal life with an ####### does not sound good.
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No, you just don't seem to understand the example.

God is the Alpha and the Omega. He always is, always was, always will be. Time is a meaningless issue for Him, as it is just one facet of the universe which He created. You can choose your actions, but He's already seen what you chose, like watching the movie of it to us (my basic, childlike understanding - the phrase I bet you take most from this post ).
DING DING theres the God works in Mysterious ways
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God was wrong

See it's easy
How was he wrong? He knew the answer, but I had the choice.
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