Genesis 22

[Nucklesack]

Originally Posted by This_person

Well, then He would have known you were turning left

You keep changing the parameters to fit your "argument". You can only turn one way, you can't turn both. Whichever way you actually, finally chose, that's the way He knew you'd go. But, the choice was always yours, he just knew it.

No your being purposely obtuse.

I havent changed anything in my argument

If God forsaw you turn Right, could you instead turn Left?

pretty simple

[Nucklesack]

Originally Posted by This_person

The lack of question mark implies a closed mind, not willing to learn.

What he's saying is that you decide your fate, and God knows what you've decided.

God knows your fate, because he forsaw it eons ago, before you made the decision.

Fate means its predetermined

Predetermined is the opposite of free will

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

What you're saying is that there is no way to escape the fate that god knows before you are born.

notice the lack of a question mark at the end of my sentence.

Actually, what the Bible states is that you can escape the fate that Satan wants you to have. It's just that God already knows which people will reject His Plan of Salvation through Christ through their free-will decision.

You keep leaving Satan out of the equation. You can choose to serve God or Satan. Choose Life or Death. Choose Good or Evil.

What do you choose?

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by Nucklesack

No your being purposely obtuse.

I havent changed anything in my argument

If God forsaw you turn Right, could you instead turn Left?

pretty simple

god saw a future movie of you!!!!

don't you understand?!



also, I'm pretty sure future movies are somewhere in Luke

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Nucklesack

No your being purposely obtuse.

I havent changed anything in my argument

If God forsaw you turn Right, could you instead turn Left?

pretty simple

You're putting the human/natural constraints of time on God. You can make the choice, but that doesn't mean it wasn't foreseen what choice YOU made.

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

Actually, what the Bible states is that you can escape the fate that Satan wants you to have. It's just that God already knows which people will reject His Plan of Salvation through Christ through their free-will decision.

You keep leaving Satan out of the equation. You can choose to serve God or Satan. Choose Life or Death. Choose Good or Evil.

What do you choose?

I leave 'satan' out because unless he is god, he has no bearing on you.

it's god who is all knowing and powerful right?

it's gods foreknowledge that you can't derail right?

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Nucklesack

God knows your fate, because he forsaw it eons ago, before you made the decision.

Fate means its predetermined

Predetermined is the opposite of free will

You're putting the human/natural constraints of time on God. You can make the choice, but that doesn't mean it wasn't foreseen what choice YOU made.

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by Nucklesack

God knows your fate, because he forsaw it eons ago, before you made the decision.

Fate means its predetermined

Predetermined is the opposite of free will

You also know what your fate is right now. No need to wait until Judgment day!

God did not make the decision for you. You sign your own fate when you hedge your bet on whether to believe that Christ is The Son of God and Saviour of mankind or choose to reject God's Plan of Salvation through Christ.

God wants everyone to accept His Son as personal Saviour.
Not everyone chooses to. God did not make the decision for them.

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

God did not make the decision for you.

he just knew it before you were born and made it so you can't waver from it ....

so wait. He did.

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

I leave 'satan' out because unless he is god, he has no bearing on you.

it's god who is all knowing and powerful right?

it's gods foreknowledge that you can't derail right?

You cannot leave Satan out of the equation when it is Satan that is battlling God over ownership of your soul:

Humble yourselves, therefore, under God's mighty hand, that he may lift you up in due time. Cast all your anxiety on him because he cares for you.

Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. Resist him, standing firm in the faith, because you know that your brothers throughout the world are undergoing the same kind of sufferings.
1 Peter 5:6-9 (New International Version)