Genesis 22

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

I was asking what you would do. Would you want them living in your neighborhood if you knew they would continue doing harm to innocent people?

clearly, if I had a bad neighbor I would destroy the populace of the earth. Including almost all of the animals.

because that course of action is logical and morally sound.

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[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

no no no

I was saying a prayer line you could call probably doesn't exist.

I have no clue if god exists or not.

There is a direct line to God - but you have to use your free will to call Him.
Once connected, you can air your complaints.
:)

[wxtornado]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

clearly, if I had a bad neighbor I would destroy the populace of the earth. Including almost all of the animals.

because that course of action is logical and morally sound.

....

And more importantly, it's been proven to work!

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

clearly, if I had a bad neighbor I would destroy the populace of the earth. Including almost all of the animals.

because that course of action is logical and morally sound.

....

Call God on this one.

[wxtornado]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

There is a direct line to God - but you have to use your free will to call Him.

Wait, we have free will??

Oh, I see. God is not the author of existence then?

Please think this through. If God breated everything, then he created the laws that define how existence works. Either he is the ultimate author, or he isn't.

Which is it?

[toppick08 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by wxtornado

Wait, we have free will??

Oh, I see. God is not the author of existence then?

Please think this through. If God breated everything, then he created the laws that define how existence works. Either he is the ultimate author, or he isn't.

Which is it?

10 commandments

[wxtornado]

Originally Posted by toppick08

10 commandments

1. According to the belief system, God is the First Cause, so says the theist. All actions come from God -- he began everything.

2. According to the belief system, there is a specific plan in place (leading to Armageddon). The plan requires specific acts to occur in order for it to unfold. It has been foreseen, therefore every move is known. Each play is already a done deal. If you wish to do something different from what has been ordained, you cannot. Do something. Did you do it? God saw that you would do that infinitely back in time. You have no ability to make God's foreknowledge wrong.

You were not even born when he saw you do it.

Free will in the Christian worldview is an illusion. It's quite simple, really.

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

There is a direct line to God - but you have to use your free will to call Him.
Once connected, you can air your complaints.
:)

according to you we don't have free will hehe

also, I stayed on the line for years, but never got a response ....

I left a message on the machine, but he still hasn't got back to me.

Ball is in his court.

[toppick08 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by wxtornado

1. According to the belief system, God is the First Cause, so says the theist. All actions come from God -- he began everything.

2. According to the belief system, there is a specific plan in place (leading to Armageddon). The plan requires specific acts to occur in order for it to unfold. It has been foreseen, therefore every move is known. Each play is already a done deal. If you wish to do something different from what has been ordained, you cannot. Do something. Did you do it? God saw that you would do that infinitely back in time. You have no ability to make God's foreknowledge wrong.

You were not even born when he saw you do it.

Free will in the Christian worldview is an illusion. It's quite simple, really.

Read them, and see how you fare......

Jesus was sent to see them executed......

[Xaquin44]

Originally Posted by toppick08

Read them, and see how you fare......

Jesus was sent to see them executed......

that didn't address the quotes concerns.