Genesis 22

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by migtig

Actually, that's not really true. The name Yeshua come from Joshua's Hebrew name, Yehoshua, which sometimes appears in its shortened form, Yeshua. Yeshua transalted into Greek becomes Iesous. In English the "y" sound was rendered as "j" and hence Jesus.

Agreed - but what I was previously referring to is that if Yeshua went anywhere in the world His correct and given name would still be Yeshua.

"In the days of Jesus people only had one name. Last names were not introduced before the time of Napoleon. To differentiate between people with the same name a unique characteristic was attached to the name, like the place they were from (Jesus of Nazareth or Mary of Magdalene), names of family members (such as Jesus, son of Joseph; or Mary, the mother of Jesus), professions (like Joseph the carpenter; or Cuza, the manager of Herod’s household) or some other feature (such as John the Baptist; or Simon who was also called the Zealot).

In Hebrew Jesus would have been called Yeshua (Jeshua) or Joshua which literally means “Yahweh saves” or “Yahweh is savior.” The Greek word Christ or the Latin Christus both translate the Hebrew Messiah, which means in English “the anointed one.”

So, Jesus Christ literally means 'Jesus, the Messiah' or “Jesus, the anointed One.”'

Windmill Ministries - Christian Apologetics

[Dougstermd (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Gwydion

You spelled hoping wrong.

but you get the point of my post weather hoping or hopping:

[Dougstermd (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

Half-brother, that is; and only at the beginning was James skeptical. The miracles Yeshua performed and His Ultimate Resurrection convinced him that Yeshua was indeed the Son of God. Just as the Roman Centurion realized:

The siblings born to Joseph and Mary were Yeshua's Half-brothers & sisters:

Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him. (Mark 6:3)

Re: The Centurion:

"And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom.
And when the centurion, which stood over against him, saw that he so cried out, and gave up the ghost, he said, Truly this man was the Son of God.
(Mark 15:38-39)

Half brother? How do you have a half brother from a virgin???????

there is some BS here?

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by Dougstermd

Half brother? How do you have a half brother from a virgin???????

there is some BS here?

Two siblings who have the same mother but a different father are half-brother or half sister to one another.

Yeshua was born through the Divine Intervention of God through the Holy Spirit.

Although Joseph and Mary were married, the marriage was not consummated sexually until after the birth of Christ, thus allowing Mary to remain pure and untouched through her pregnancy. After Christ was born, Joseph and Mary had children together, thus, those children were the half-brothers/sisters of Christ.

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:
And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS. (Matthew 1:23-25)

[Xaquin44]

god all knocking up some guys wife.

I thought you weren't supposed to do that kind of stuff.

lead by example god!

[This_person]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

god all knocking up some guys wife.

I thought you weren't supposed to do that kind of stuff.

lead by example god!

God didn't actually do it. It was just a random act of evolution, where a person spontaneously gives birth to a saviour (kinda like that spontaneous way the planet gave birth to life where no life existed before, and that single life form had enough genetic information for all the life that followed).

[Starman3000m]

“For he grew up before him like a young plant, and like a root out of dry ground; he had no form or comeliness that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him. He was despised and rejected by men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief; and as one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not. Surely he has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we esteemed him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted.

But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that made us whole, and with his stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all. He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth; like a lamb that is led to the slaughter, and like a sheep that before its shearers is dumb, so he opened not his mouth. By oppression and judgment he was taken away; and as for his generation, who considered that he was cut off out of the land of the living, stricken for the transgression of my people?

And they made his grave with the wicked and with a rich man in his death, although he had done no violence, and there was no deceit in his mouth. Yet it was the will of the LORD to bruise him; he has put him to grief; when he makes himself an offering for sin, he shall see his offspring, he shall prolong his days; the will of the LORD shall prosper in his hand; he shall see the fruit of the travail of his soul and be satisfied; by his knowledge shall the righteous one, my servant, make many to be accounted righteous; and he shall bear their iniquities. Therefore I will divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he poured out his soul to death, and was numbered with the transgressors; yet he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.” ( Isaiah 53:2-12)

Jewish Prophets Describe the Messiah - Jesus Central jesuscentral.com Life-of-jesus-ancient

[SamSpade]

Originally Posted by Nucklesack

Jesus's brother James did not believe him to be the Messiah

Certainly not during his lifetime, but clearly much later - he was regarded as a pillar of the Jerusalem church.

His mother and brothers were believers after his death, and were with the Eleven when they chose Matthias to replace Judas. Tradition also has it that James the Lord's brother wrote the book bearing his name, and similarly that his brother Jude wrote the book bearing his name.

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by Xaquin44

god all knocking up some guys wife.

I thought you weren't supposed to do that kind of stuff.

lead by example god!

Mary conceived the Christ-Child before she and Joseph were married.

Fact is, when Joseph found out Mary was pregnant (he knew the child wasn't his) he was ready to cancel the marriage plans and have her sent away so as to help her save face. Here is the Biblical context of that circumstance as found in the Gospel of Matthew, Ch.1:

18: Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
19: Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily.
20: But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
21: And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.
22: Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
23: Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
24: Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife:
25: And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.
(Matthew 1:18-25)

[Xaquin44]

that's not where I was going really.

I mean, god can make people from nothing .... why knock up some guys wife?

did he even ask Mary?