A Trail of Blood

[Dondi]

Originally Posted by Nonno

Thanks, you put forth a gallant effort but as a "tutor", you suck.

Well, look who I have to work with.

You're looking for an answer that is simply not apparent enough for you, yet is demonstratably apparent to everyone else in this thread. I suggest a course in inductive reasoning, but I'm afraid you don't have the prerequisites, like 1st grade Math and Engish.

[Nonno]

Originally Posted by Dondi

Well, look who I have to work with.

You're looking for an answer that is simply not apparent enough for you, yet is demonstratably apparent to everyone else in this thread. I suggest a course in inductive reasoning, but I'm afraid you don't have the prerequisites, like 1st grade Math and Engish.

Still.......unasked, you offered your services as a tutor and you gave up = you suck.

[Dondi]

Originally Posted by Nonno

Still.......unasked, you offered your services as a tutor and you gave up = you suck.

You can't teach the unteachable.

[Beta84]

Originally Posted by Dondi

You can't teach the unteachable.

apparently he wants proof, not common sense. If you told him 1 + 1 = 2, he'd want a link as proof. He'd further want to know WHO decided that 1+1 = 2 and where it came from and probably an entire history on how 1+1=2. Remember, he lives in the world of internet links. Nothing else matters to him.

[Nonno]

Originally Posted by Beta84

Even the best tutors can't help when the student is trying to be difficult. You asked a stupid question. Why was he villified? The guy wrote a widely circulated book telling most people that their religion is a farce because they go to "meeting places" and not actual "churches". Think about it.

Doesn't the Roman Catholic church take the same view?

[Penn]

Originally Posted by Nonno

Doesn't the Roman Catholic church take the same view?

Nonno, you seem to been afflicted with a severe case of "insecurity complexion"; perhaps we should all say a prayer for him.

"Our Father, Who art in Heaven".....please, feel free to follow along....?

[Marie]

Originally Posted by Im_Me

I see a list of stuff and the fact the you read and enjoyed a book...What I'm looking for is a point or a point of view?

You can debate whether the Baptist started durning the reformation or from John the Babtist. The book shows a progression that each time man tried to improve on the first century model it either corrupted or devided the church. I thought it did a good job of pointing out Romes errors as well as the protestant church. Looking at things historically you can see how, when, where, and why some of the bazzare perversion came into corrupt the first century model.

[Im_Me]

Originally Posted by Marie

You can debate whether the Baptist started durning the reformation or from John the Babtist. The book shows a progression that each time man tried to improve on the first century model it either corrupted or devided the church. I thought it did a good job of pointing out Romes errors as well as the protestant church. Looking at things historically you can see how, when, where, and why some of the bazzare perversion came into corrupt the first century model.

Hi Marie. I'm glad to hear your point of view...It shows you are, like me, a bit of a Christian nerd (i.e. curious about the process of religious development as well as with growing in your Christian faith). I like that in a person!

I don't think any open minded Catholic would disagree that the Catholic Church had some dark days that contributed to the various schisms that caused the Christian churches to splinter....BUT truthfully except that we are still run by a Pope and a college of Bishops, most of that history has nothing to do with the way we worship as a christian community today.

Personally the more I learn about the real Catholic faith (I just came back from a lecture), the more amazed I become. Along with this rich and varied history that satisfies the nerd in me, there is a doctrine of acceptance that satisfies my view of a loving and forgiving God, (even though it totally contradicts my childish understanding of the Baltimore Catacism I was taught...)

Frankly, understanding a little of the basis of some critics like Starman and IT, the more they really knew (as opposed to what they think they know) the less they would like it.

I hope I have always respected the rights of others to a different set of religious beliefs, while I have staunchly defended (and tried to understand and clarify) the doctrines and dogma of the Catholic faith.

Pray on sister friend!

[libby]

Originally Posted by Im_Me

Hi Marie. I'm glad to hear your point of view...It shows you are, like me, a bit of a Christian nerd (i.e. curious about the process of religious development as well as with growing in your Christian faith). I like that in a person!

I don't think any open minded Catholic would disagree that the Catholic Church had some dark days that contributed to the various schisms that caused the Christian churches to splinter....BUT truthfully except that we are still run by a Pope and a college of Bishops, most of that history has nothing to do with the way we worship as a christian community today.

Personally the more I learn about the real Catholic faith (I just came back from a lecture), the more amazed I become. Along with this rich and varied history that satisfies the nerd in me, there is a doctrine of acceptance that satisfies my view of a loving and forgiving God, (even though it totally contradicts my childish understanding of the Baltimore Catacism I was taught...)

Frankly, understanding a little of the basis of some critics like Starman and IT, the more they really knew (as opposed to what they think they know) the less they would like it.

I hope I have always respected the rights of others to a different set of religious beliefs, while I have staunchly defended (and tried to understand and clarify) the doctrines and dogma of the Catholic faith.

Pray on sister friend!

You might be interested in another article

Newman Reader - Development of Christian Doctrine

Newman became a Catholic after doing the research for this essay. I've not read it in it's entirety yet, but it is highly recommended and very compelling, IMO.

[Beta84]

Originally Posted by Nonno

Doesn't the Roman Catholic church take the same view?

If that's their view, they certainly teach quite the opposite.