Former Jehovah's Witness: Laurie's Story

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by hvp05

...That's because you lump together everyone not like you. Not the first time you have had trouble c-o-m-p-r-e-h-e-n-d-i-n-g what I have said either. When I responded to b23 I was using a little technique I call Sarcasm.

That's the similarity! That's why when I read your post it sure sounded exactly like something Bird Dog would say in response, thus, I inadvertently typed his ID instead of yours. That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

[Bird Dog (Premo)]

Hi,

I'm back and definitely not HVP, but if he annoys SM & IS we are buddy's

You all are really getting sensitive.

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BTW: Was it you or was it Bird Dog who once stated that there was "no New Testament Jesus Christ"? StarrParrot.

It was me, there is only one Jesus Christ, you are the one who claims there are a bunch of them.

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by Bird Dog

Hi,

I'm back and definitely not HVP, but if he annoys SM & IS we are buddy's

You all are really getting sensitive.

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BTW: Was it you or was it Bird Dog who once stated that there was "no New Testament Jesus Christ"? StarrParrot.

It was me, there is only one Jesus Christ, you are the one who claims there are a bunch of them.

Yes, when I compared all the other religions who claim to believe in "Jesus" (including the RCC) the obvious result is that there are a "bunch of them" as in the following:

1.) The "RCC Jesus" who is accompanied in Heaven by Mary where she now reigns as the "Queen of Heaven" and can be prayed to and helps souls get into Heaven;

2.) The "Mormon Jesus" who is not God at all but a separate being from God (Heavenly Father) and has multiple heavenly wives, is the "spirit brother of Satan" and will set up His Kingdom in North America (instead of Jerusalem) etc...

3.) The "Jehovah's Witness Jesus" whom they claim is the archangel Michael and who will only take 144,000 faithful JWs to Heaven while the rest of the faithful JWs will live on earth as a "restored paradise"

4.) The "Jesus of Islam" known as Isa' was not really "The Son of God" was not really crucified, is really a "Muslim" and is going to condemn people for believing he was "God's Son"...

5.) The "Jesus of the Moonies" who appeared to Sun Myung Moon on a Korean mountainside and told him to "restore the truth" to the earth...

BUT WAIT! There's Still More...

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. (Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22)

For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him. (2 Corinthians 11:4)

Conclusion: It isn't me who said there would be a bunch of christs; it was The New Testament Jesus and Apostle Paul who gave that warning. I'm just pointing out and identifying which ones in these days are the "false christs" that people are believing in rather than knowing and placing faith in the True New Testament Jesus.

[Bird Dog (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

Yes, when I compared all the other religions who claim to believe in "Jesus" (including the RCC) the obvious result is that there are a "bunch of them" as in the following:
1.) The "RCC Jesus"
2.) The "Mormon Jesus"
3.) The "Jehovah's Witness Jesus"
4.) The "Jesus of Islam"
5.) The "Jesus of the Moonies"
[Jesus.

Only "Five"

The way you were posting, I thought we would need canon fire to sort them all out.

You forgot one though!

6.) The "StarrParrott Jesus".

[hvp05]

Originally Posted by Bird Dog

6.) The "StarrParrott Jesus".

He must have been the one who declared, "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy SQUAAAWK."








Sorry, Star, I had to.

[itsbob]

Originally Posted by ItalianScallion

It's called CARING. So you really don't care if your friends & loved ones end up in Hell forever? Well, some of us here DO care about that so we're going to tell them the truth and hope they listen.

You mean: Live and let die? Actually Bob, you're the real hateful bigot on here. You don't try to "win souls" and you want us to hush. That's clearly an act of not caring about others. Our caring acts look bigoted and hateful to you. Should we stop caring because you've chosen not to care? Ain't gonna happen bud'...

Actually you' be wrong...

I care, apparenty, for my fellow man MUCH more than you do.

I have faith that as individuals, we have the right, the intellect, and ability to research for ourseleves what is best for us. You believe you've found what is best for you, I believe I have found what is best for me. The only difference is I don't tell people that if they don't believe what I believe they will spend all eternity in hell..

I'm tolerant, MUCH more tolerant than thou art, of people's other beliefs. I may DISAGREE with them, but I don't tell them they believe in the wrong Jesus because they don't believe in MY Jesus..

I also tell them that you shouldn't be judged on what you believe, or what church you go to, but what kind of basic PERSON you are. Atheists can be good people, as well as Jehovah Witnesses, and Mormons, and EVEN Catholics.. MAYBE there are even decent Born Agains (but I'm starting to doubt it).. But at the end of day, and at the end of your life, you shoul be judged not by what you believed or didn't, but how you treated others.. IF there is a heaven, I'm sure there will be MANY more atheists there than "Christians" of your ilk.

You're an #######.. pure and simple.. IF there is a Heaven, I would think #######s and dickheads aren't going to be welcome.

[ItalianScallion (Premo)]

Originally Posted by itsbob

Actually you' be wrong...

I care, apparenty, for my fellow man MUCH more than you do.

I have faith that as individuals, we have the right, the intellect, and ability to research for ourseleves what is best for us. You believe you've found what is best for you, I believe I have found what is best for me. The only difference is I don't tell people that if they don't believe what I believe they will spend all eternity in hell..

I'm tolerant, MUCH more tolerant than thou art, of people's other beliefs. I may DISAGREE with them, but I don't tell them they believe in the wrong Jesus because they don't believe in MY Jesus..

I also tell them that you shouldn't be judged on what you believe, or what church you go to, but what kind of basic PERSON you are. Atheists can be good people, as well as Jehovah Witnesses, and Mormons, and EVEN Catholics.. MAYBE there are even decent Born Agains (but I'm starting to doubt it).. But at the end of day, and at the end of your life, you shoul be judged not by what you believed or didn't, but how you treated others.. IF there is a heaven, I'm sure there will be MANY more atheists there than "Christians" of your ilk.

You're an #######.. pure and simple.. IF there is a Heaven, I would think #######s and dickheads aren't going to be welcome.

Nice hateful, demonic name calling, eh? Sounds like you're out of ammo but anyhow, what proof do you have that you are right? If it's your opinion vs mine, you have a chance but, if it's what God said vs what you've said, you're not even close. You truly don't understand spiritual things because we are commanded to tell others that they're "on the highway to Hell". What kind of person wouldn't warn his friends if their lives were in mortal danger?

[itsbob]

Originally Posted by ItalianScallion

You truly don't understand spiritual things because we are commanded to tell others that they're "on the highway to Hell". What kind of person wouldn't warn his friends if their lives were in mortal danger?

Who is commanding you to tell everyone they are going to hell because they don't believe what you belive?

I'm assuming your church leadership in the guise of recruiting more of YOUR families and freinds to THEIR church..

You just don't get it. You're doing the bidding of PEOPLE, not the Bible, not for religion.. They have found a way for you to actively try to recruit others from other churches to fill their pews and coffers.. and make you feel good about berating people and calling them stupid and condemned.

NOT a church any sane, intelligent person would choose to be a part of.

[ItalianScallion (Premo)]

Originally Posted by itsbob

Who is commanding you to tell everyone they are going to hell because they don't believe what you belive?

I'm assuming your church leadership in the guise of recruiting more of YOUR families and freinds to THEIR church..

You just don't get it. You're doing the bidding of PEOPLE, not the Bible, not for religion.. They have found a way for you to actively try to recruit others from other churches to fill their pews and coffers.. and make you feel good about berating people and calling them stupid and condemned.

NOT a church any sane, intelligent person would choose to be a part of.

Jesus commanded us to. Your worldly thinking cannot follow this line of reasoning. I have NO church to send these people to and I get no money for helping them get saved. I do this is out of love & gratitude to God.

There will be a lot of shocked people who find that their thinking was wrong and cost them their entire eternal future. God said that it is possible for a person to gain the whole world but lose his soul...