Catholics Trying To Eat Their Own.....

[PsyOps (Premo)]

Originally Posted by blazinlow89

Reading what you want others to say like usual JPC.

To answer the other questions, yes the friend attends a catholic church. They asked for a large sum of money.

As for my reasoning behind my belief as to catholic corruption. My guess is none of you ever paid any attention in history class, does Marin Luther and the 95 Thesis ring any bells. John Calvin is another. How about the dark ages. A long history of corruption involving money. What makes you honestly think anything has changed.

Once again I stated the catholic church in my belief is a scam, why? This is a thread about the catholic church.

I was a member of a charismatic church down in FL. They used to organize a big shindig called “Jesus Celebration” every year. They’d have all sorts of activities and music and such. I played guitar in their band. One year they had a pretty popular Christian band called “David and the Giants” come play. They were really pretty good. They played their gig, then the pastor of the church thought it was appropriate to pass around the plate for a collection for the band. After that was done The Giants played some more while the church leaders counted the money behind the scenes. After The Giants were done playing one of the church leaders (Kimberly) came out and chastised everyone for being so chinsey on their donations and that the plates would be passed around and everyone needed to “dig deeper”. I have seen this sort of thing in all types of different denominations.

Point being… The CC is not the only church mired in corruption and driven by power and money. I happen to believe these mega-Churches are nothing more than money pits. I will say that they do bring a lot of people to God; these people being well-intentioned honest people just looking for God. It’s not them; it’s the organization called The Church. In my view they all have problems in one way or another. And this has nothing to do with falling short of being perfect or some delusion like that. I’m talking about abject corruption and distortion of God’s Word. In this, I have found it pretty impossible to trust going to church anymore. But I disagree that the CC should be singled out. In my view they’re all guilty.

[JPCusick (Premo)]

Originally Posted by blazinlow89

As for my reasoning behind my belief as to catholic corruption. My guess is none of you ever paid any attention in history class, does Marin Luther and the 95 Thesis ring any bells. John Calvin is another. How about the dark ages. A long history of corruption involving money. What makes you honestly think anything has changed.

I do not see it as proper to criticize the Catholic Church of today based on events of centuries ago, and yes things have changed very much.

The Second Vatican Council of 1962-65 was a huge turning point for the CC as it moved itself into the modern age, and Pope Paul VI was brilliant in the Vatican II reforms.

Plus I find it very significant that Martin Luther (1483-1546) was a child and a Monk and a product of the Catholic Church, so the CC produced the likes of Martin Luther and as such they both compliment each other.

[b23hqb]

Just as long as the catholics eat nhboy. that would open a lot of wasted space on these threads......

[MMDad]

Originally Posted by JPCusick

I do not see it as proper to criticize the Catholic Church of today based on events of centuries ago, and yes things have changed very much.

Just as it is not proper to punish all white people for the slavery of centuries ago.

[JPCusick (Premo)]

Originally Posted by MMDad

Just as it is not proper to punish all white people for the slavery of centuries ago.

If you understood the Gospel message then you would know that repentance does not mean punishment.

It is not a matter of punishing the white people (and I do not know anyone who wants to punish the white people) as that is simply a white people's cowardice, in that our guilt makes so that white people fear punishment when no one wants to punish us.

What is wanted is for the white people to STOP the cowardly white lies, and stop the ignorant white denials of the truth.

And the white lies and white denials are NOT fooling anyone, unless there is some truly stupid white person who actually believes their own white washed white lies?

Back to the Catholic Church - and I must say the noble Catholic example is that the Catholic Church does NOT lie about their own past, and they do not deny the history or the reality, and they do repent of their wrongs.

The Catholic Church takes a beating and takes the insults and the negativity as they keep on going and growing in their faith, and that is an honorable example for anyone to follow.

[blazinlow89]

You really like reading between the lines. Once again I only stated that the Catholic church is a scam due to the article in this thread. I understand that other churches are corrupt. I have never heard of a church actually asking you to pay to maintain status as a member due to personal matters. I have attended alot of different churches and while the preacher was not saying give us your money, but I have been to a couple that subliminally asked for more donations.

From my understanding a church is a place of worship that welcomes all people. I know nothing I say can appease any of you, my thoughts and views of the Catholic are mine, how about pyramid scheme. Does that work better for you.

JPC I understand that these things happened over 500 years ago, that does not change the church. It might stop for a period of time, they will always resort back to their ways of taking money from the members. Don't even come back to this one because you are the biggest hypocrite when it comes to the past.

[JPCusick (Premo)]

Originally Posted by MMDad

Just as it is not proper to punish all white people for the slavery of centuries ago.

MMDad:

Not so long ago the white people in South Africa thought that if they gave equality and political power over to the black people majority then the whites expected that the black Africans would kill or punish the white population, and that white fear was based on the white guilt, because guilt is what creates fear.

But the black people mentality are not like the whites in that our white mentality thinks in violent terms, as like whites expect violence and revenge and injustices and cruelties because those things are infested into our white mentality.

Black people are not naturally violent people - as are us white folk.

And most of our white cruelties and injustices are based in our own white fears and white cowardice which strikes outwardly with our violence.

In reality the transition away from white racism in South Africa turned out to be mostly peaceful, and as the African people later called it - Truth and Reconciliation.

FYI.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by JPCusick

In the opening post the American Catholic Nuns are simply pushing the sinful ideas which our American culture has taught to them.

American Nuns are trying to save the Church from itself , and bring it into the 21 century....you idiot!

[Giantone]

You and Dr. Shine should be in a jail cell together.

[Bird Dog (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Giantone

American Nuns are trying to save the Church from itself , and bring it into the 21 century....you idiot!

The Catholic Church does not need to be saved from itself. We have been doing fine for two-thousand years.


and.........there you go again with your limited vocabulary... Idiot?...Redneck?...Racist?...10 oz. bud drinker?..

When you are not promoting your gay lifestyle and trying to bankrupt great businesses with your union organizing, go take an English course at CCSM to expand your vocabulary and and improve your writing skills.