The Red Road

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by cheezgrits

Elder's Meditation of the Day January 13

"When you remove love and try to replace it with monetary things, you've got nothing ... get him to understand that he has to love himself before he can love anything else."
--John Peters (Slow Turtle), WAMPANOAG


Great Spirit, You are love; You are spirit. Spirit and love are interconnected. I am spiritual. Let me realize what I am really made of.

Hi cheezgrits. Sorry that the Bible verses that I submit seem to "grit on you" but it's just that the things you post seem to have a parallel teaching that can be found in the Holy Bible. Remember, you even once said that we walk on similar paths and that's why I wanted to show the similarities.

Anyway, please forgive me for posting another example that relates to much the same as yours regarding replacing love with placing importance more on "monetary things". This is what Jesus said and I am sure that you would also agree here:

Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:

But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.(Matthew 6:19-21)

Peace my friend.

[ItalianScallion (Premo)]

Something else needs to be pointed out to everyone:

While a lot of those principles are very good for a moral life, they won't get anyone to Heaven. Just like Buddhism and a few others; They have great principles for moral living but just "being good" doesn't get you into Heaven...

[cheezgrits]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

Hi cheezgrits. Sorry that the Bible verses that I submit seem to "grit on you" but it's just that the things you post seem to have a parallel teaching that can be found in the Holy Bible. Remember, you even once said that we walk on similar paths and that's why I wanted to show the similarities.

Anyway, please forgive me for posting another example that relates to much the same as yours regarding replacing love with placing importance more on "monetary things". This is what Jesus said and I am sure that you would also agree here:



Peace my friend.

No worries, I quit viewing it as a competition and as a tool to help those not enlightened in my culture help draw a comparison to their own faith.

[cheezgrits]

Originally Posted by ItalianScallion

Something else needs to be pointed out to everyone:

While a lot of those principles are very good for a moral life, they won't get anyone to Heaven. Just like Buddhism and a few others; They have great principles for moral living but just "being good" doesn't get you into Heaven...

That may be true, but it ain't a bad first step, huh?

[cheezgrits]

Elder's Meditation of the Day January 14

"It is a native tradition to sit in a circle and talk-to share what is in your heart."
--John Peters (Slow Turtle), WAMPANOAG

The talking circle is also a listening circle. The talking circle allows one person to talk at a time for as long as they need to talk. So much can be gained by listening. Is it a coincidence that the Creator gave us one mouth and two ears? The power of the circle allows the heart to be shared with each other. What we share with each other also heals each other. When we talk about our pain in the circle, it is distributed to the circle, and we are free of the pain. The talking circle works because when the people form a circle, the Great Mystery is in the center.

My Creator, give me the courage to share, and the courage to listen.

Seems particularly fitting as of late...

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by cheezgrits

Elder's Meditation of the Day January 14

"It is a native tradition to sit in a circle and talk-to share what is in your heart."
--John Peters (Slow Turtle), WAMPANOAG

The talking circle is also a listening circle. The talking circle allows one person to talk at a time for as long as they need to talk. So much can be gained by listening. Is it a coincidence that the Creator gave us one mouth and two ears? The power of the circle allows the heart to be shared with each other. What we share with each other also heals each other. When we talk about our pain in the circle, it is distributed to the circle, and we are free of the pain. The talking circle works because when the people form a circle, the Great Mystery is in the center.

My Creator, give me the courage to share, and the courage to listen.

Seems particularly fitting as of late...

Again, cheezgrits, this is a great concept for sharing together and learning from one another. I can see where this would work in a small community where people are like minded. Unfortunately, the world is not that way as much as we wish that it would be.

The reality is that there will always be differences and when people really speak what's on their mind it truly does come from the heart. The Bible mentions that there are two kinds of people who, when they speak, will reveal what is truly in his/her heart. Again, this is the reality of the world we live in as addressed by the words that Jesus spoke:

A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. (Matthew 12:35-36)

“Don’t you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. These are what defile a person;
(Matthew 15:17-20)

[cheezgrits]

Elder's Meditation of the Day January 15

It's all spirit and it's all connected."
--Grandfather William Commanda, ALGONQUIN

If everything is connected, we cannot disconnect. To disconnect is not a real choice. This is why we are always spiritual no matter what we do. Every alcoholic is spiritual. All our brothers and sisters are spiritual. We may not be behaving correctly, but nevertheless, we are spiritual. Our choice is to live out of harmony with spiritual ways or in harmony with spiritual ways. Everything is spiritual.

Great Spirit, give me the knowledge to be in harmony with the spirit today.

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by cheezgrits

Elder's Meditation of the Day January 15

It's all spirit and it's all connected."
--Grandfather William Commanda, ALGONQUIN

If everything is connected, we cannot disconnect. To disconnect is not a real choice. This is why we are always spiritual no matter what we do. Every alcoholic is spiritual. All our brothers and sisters are spiritual. We may not be behaving correctly, but nevertheless, we are spiritual. Our choice is to live out of harmony with spiritual ways or in harmony with spiritual ways. Everything is spiritual.

Great Spirit, give me the knowledge to be in harmony with the spirit today.

Hi cheezgrits. Yes, there is a Bible parallel to this as well. Jesus spoke about those who really want to be united as one in Spiritual harmony with God through faith, Love, Hope and assurance of Salvation through being in Him as He is in the Father/Creator. Jesus said that those who place faith in Him would receive the Holy Spirit to unite us in faith and seal us to become Children of God.

Again, while the prayer is a good one it must be a sincere desire on the part of each individual that they want to be spiritually connected. We are told that Christ is the one whom we can turn to for that intercession that is provided through Him and in Him.

The reality is that there are many people who do not trust in Christ, believing they can achieve spiritually harmony through another way and then there are those who believe by faith and trust in Christ's Promise that He Is The Way The Truth and The Life and that no one can come to the Spirit Father/Creator except through Him alone. (John 14:6)

Jesus Prays for All Believers“My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me. (John 17:20-23)

also:

Apostle Paul addresses the Ephesians about unity and being one in the Spirit:

…I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received. Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; (Ephesians 4:1-5)

[hotcoffee]

Originally Posted by cheezgrits

That may be true, but it ain't a bad first step, huh?

I heard it this way.... suppose there was a number.... like 9999 of good things you had to do to get to heaven..... suppose you decided to take that step because heaven seems so wonderful..... and then.... after completing 9998 wonderful deeds you got hit by a truck and died on the spot.....

Well.... there is an alternative.... Jesus said you can get to heaven through Him.... all you have to do is believe in Him.... once you have put your faith in Him.... [that's what believing actually is].... He'll send the Spirit to help you the rest of the way.... so that way if a truck hits you after salvation on day one or after good deed 9998 you'll still get to go to Heaven....

I like His plan better....