Christians, Let’s Honor the President

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by Radiant1

Who are you trying to deceive? The pope said the year of Christs' birth was off. (This has been well known in Catholic scholarly circles for a very long time, so it's not as if it was some big secret to "admit" to btw.) He said nothing of the day, nor did he say anything about the day being chosen to convert pagans. So, there's your Real Truth. Try again.

I would take this moment to demean your character, but I think you're doing a fine job of that yourself.

On the contrary, Radiant1, The pope is doing a great job of proving that the RCC has erred all along.

As far as Jesus' birth month being in "December" the Scriptures state that the shepherds were tending their sheep in the fields during the month of Christ's Birth. The RCC says it was December, but was it, really?

In What Month Was Jesus' Born?
The month and day of Jesus' birthday is also unknown.
However, we can be fairly certain that it was not DEC-25.

THE SHEPHERDS: Luke 2:8 mentions that shepherds were living in their fields keeping watch over their flocks during the nighttime (and, one would assume, also during the daytime.) This is a good indication that Jesus' birth did not happen in December when the flocks would have already have been moved from the fields into pens. They were only in the fields during the warmer months. There is a remark in the Talmud that flocks were put out to grass in March and brought in during the beginning of November. During the Jewish month of Heshvan (our October/November) the fall rains hit and the animals are penned up. At best, the passage narrows down the birth month to one of 7 months in the late spring, summer, or early fall.


Hilke Dokter 4 offers three indicators from the Bible that Jesus was born during the month of Tishri (September/October).

Read the entire info:
When was Jesus borm?

[Radiant1]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

On the contrary, Radiant1, The pope is doing a great job of proving that the RCC has erred all along.

As far as Jesus' birth month being in "December" the Scriptures state that the shepherds were tending their sheep in the fields during the month of Christ's Birth. The RCC says it was December, but was it, really?

I thought that was adequately addressed previously in this thread, post #89. Regardless, your own quote says we don't know. So, you have a choice to celebrate the birth of Christ on an incorrect date or not at all. I know what I choose to do, what about you?

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by Radiant1

I thought that was adequately addressed previously in this thread, post #89. Regardless, your own quote says we don't know. So, you have a choice to celebrate the birth of Christ on an incorrect date or not at all. I know what I choose to do, what about you?

If I remember the reason for Christ's birth and am thankful to God each day of the year for the Gift of Eternal Life that He gave through His Only Begotten Son, then there is no incorrect date. That's what I choose.

[Radiant1]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

If I remember the reason for Christ's birth and am thankful to God each day of the year for the Gift of Eternal Life that He gave through His Only Begotten Son, then there is no incorrect date. That's what I choose.

Right, there is no incorrect date. Did it really have to take you so long to agree with me?!

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by Radiant1

Right, there is no incorrect date. Did it really have to take you so long to agree with me?!

Okay, Merry Christmas! (again)

[Radiant1]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

Okay, Merry Christmas! (again)

Now you're getting it! And, let me tie this in to the other thread...

PBS report--Protestant Mary

[cheezgrits]

Originally Posted by Radiant1

O.M.G.! Say it ain't so! If we're going to make a stink over calendrical mistakes, then surely we should just go back to using a lunar calendar. To hell with that leap year crap!!

Btw, sorry to bust your titillated bubble, but the date of Christmas is hardly considered "a keystone Catholic tradition".

I'm good with going back to lunar calendar...

[mamatutu]

How about the notion that our President Obama does not honor America, which includes Christians, Jews, Muslims, Protestants, Native Americans, and on and on. Why do we have to honor a president that doesn't honor us, the US, or the Constitution. I am sick of seeing this thread go on and on. Evil exists, so get used to it and get prepared. JMO.

Edit: Oh, and God did not decide that Obama be re-elected; as stated in the OP. God is there for us, but cannot control the sins of man. JMO.

[MDSupremacist]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

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Did you read the pope's book or are you quoting someone else who didn't read it? I've seen this before- people who haven't read the book paraphrasing or "quoting" from it things that aren't there. It happened when the pope "claimed there was no Limbo." He never claimed such a thing but everyone who didn't read his statement claimed he did.

[MDSupremacist]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

On the contrary, Radiant1, The pope is doing a great job of proving that the RCC has erred all along.

As far as Jesus' birth month being in "December" the Scriptures state that the shepherds were tending their sheep in the fields during the month of Christ's Birth. The RCC says it was December, but was it, really?

Ample evidence has been given to prove the date. Your only evidence[sic] is that someone claims sheep would have been in a pen by then. I think math, tradition and the Church Fathers trump a books whose purpose it is to reject God.