In the world but not of the world....

[onel0126]

Well said Father!

In the World but Not of the World

[Zguy28]

Originally Posted by onel0126

Well said Father!

In the World but Not of the World

It was well said, and something that can be said about many Protestant churches as well.

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by onel0126

Well said Father!

In the World but Not of the World

The initial Scriptural basis of "being in the world but not of the world" refers to Jesus. Then, Jesus states that His followers are also in the world but no longer of the world. This is found in your Bible:

(Reference to Jesus)
That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. (John 1:9-11)

(Jesus in prayer to the True Father)
And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves. I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. (John 17:13-17)

(Jesus responding to Pontius Pilate)
Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world... (John 18:36)

(advice to Believers who are in the world but not of the world)
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
(1 John 2:15-16)

and

I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
(Romans 12:1-2)

[b23hqb]

It ain't just the Catholics. I was just looking up 2012 election voting trends the other day, and 21% of Mormons (an increase from 18% in 2008), along with who knows how many "born-again Christians" (best guess - about 3-4 million) failed to vote at all just because Romney is a Mormon.

Add to that 50% Catholic, 75% of Hispanic Catholic - just shows that way too many people who profess to believe the Bible, obviously do not believe much of what the Bible preaches.

I'm an evangelical, born again Christian. I voted Romney. However, I know for sure, in our small meeting, that at least two or three of my older brothers and sisters in Christ, voted Obama just because they were

(1) democrat their whole life,

(2) Obama was going to keep the mean republicans from stealing their SS benefits, he would give them more stuff, and

(3) Obama was only a little bit better off than they were, while Romney was rich.

It is really easy to scare and fool old folk, for sure.

It is even easier to sway the uninformed, ignorant, and socialist thought process.

Sad, really.

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by b23hqb

...I'm an evangelical, born again Christian. I voted Romney. However, I know for sure, in our small meeting, that at least two or three of my older brothers and sisters in Christ, voted Obama just because they were

I voted for Mitt Romney as well. (However, during the Primary I voted for Michele Bachmann)

My differences re: Mormonism have been quite clear on previous threads, however, given the fact that supposedly each vote counts, and really only two candidates were seriously considered, Romney was "The One" that I voted for.

As an important side note: I have worked closely with many Mormon individuals in management and business administration settings.
IMO: The Mormon people are kind, extremely family oriented, wise in business operations, and conscientious of preserving Patriotic American and Moral Values in our society. When I cast my vote for Romney, it was a vote for Maintaining American Patriotism, Upholding the tenets of The United States Constitution, and Maintaining Moral Values and Principles that would have made for a better society in our children's and grandchildren's future.

I realize, though, that God has a plan for America since America apparently doesn't want to have a plan with God. The next four years will be telling.

[cheezgrits]

Interesting.

While I understand the biblical references, read the comments in the link. Even Catholics can't agree with each other over something pretty blatantly simple to me.

While I certainly do not agree with the evangelical churches, I certainly respect their fevor and passion.

[b23hqb]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

I voted for Mitt Romney as well. (However, during the Primary I voted for Michele Bachmann)

My differences re: Mormonism have been quite clear on previous threads, however, given the fact that supposedly each vote counts, and really only two candidates were seriously considered, Romney was "The One" that I voted for.

As an important side note: I have worked closely with many Mormon individuals in management and business administration settings.
IMO: The Mormon people are kind, extremely family oriented, wise in business operations, and conscientious of preserving Patriotic American and Moral Values in our society. When I cast my vote for Romney, it was a vote for Maintaining American Patriotism, Upholding the tenets of The United States Constitution, and Maintaining Moral Values and Principles that would have made for a better society in our children's and grandchildren's future.

I realize, though, that God has a plan for America since America apparently doesn't want to have a plan with God. The next four years will be telling.

Agreed. I voted for the best candidate that met my standards of morals, hard work, honesty, reality.

The big o met none of those criteria. And he never will.

[onel0126]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

The initial Scriptural basis of "being in the world but not of the world" refers to Jesus. Then, Jesus states that His followers are also in the world but no longer of the world. This is found in your Bible:

Your pride and arrogance will be your downfall--scripture says so, even in your Bible! Ignore this warning at your own peril SM. Please stop assuming the rest of us are ignorant.

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by onel0126

Your pride and arrogance will be your downfall--scripture says so, even in your Bible! Ignore this warning at your own peril SM. Please stop assuming the rest of us are ignorant.

Sorry you feel that way onel.

There is Only One Truth

[hotcoffee]

Originally Posted by onel0126

Your pride and arrogance will be your downfall--scripture says so, even in your Bible! Ignore this warning at your own peril SM. Please stop assuming the rest of us are ignorant.

Personally, I like how Starman comes back with the scripture to support a lot of what I am saying. And when I'm wrong... well it helps to know where to look it up again and get myself straightened back out.