Is it possible for gays to go to heaven?

[rmorse]

Originally Posted by MDSupremacist

Still can't offer prove and trying to pawn that shortcoming off on me?

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

[MDSupremacist]

Originally Posted by rmorse

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

evidence of your claims would help me sleep better.

[bcp (Premo)]

Originally Posted by rmorse

Where in the nt does it say homosexuality is a sin? I can see sexual immorality being thrown in, but that also includes lust, adultery, prostitution, etc. Yet people aren't talking about how disgusting the victoria secret fashion show was last night. They sure as hell bring up every time states discuss gay marriage. Why aren't people talking about how wrong it is that stores are open on sunday? Blah blah blah.

Btw, how did judas die again?

1 Corinthians 6:9-10

Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

[DoWhat (Premo)]

Originally Posted by bcp

1 Corinthians 6:9-10

What does the Quran say about this?

[bcp (Premo)]

Originally Posted by DoWhat

What does the Quran say about this?

Not sure, I dont read that much fiction.
But, I think that its listed right there with the goats, its ok if there are no women or children available.

[cheezgrits]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

Yes, it may be considered amusing and funny but the story still mocked Christians who trust God to save them as not having the common sense of knowing when they were being rescued in an emergency situation whether by a raft, a rescue boat or helicopter.

Read most this single thread and see how you christians can't even agree with each other over definitions of sin and tell me again how mocking you people for not having common sense is wrong...

And I did not mean to mock, meant to show an example of the truth as I see it.

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by DoWhat

What does the Quran say about this?

Islamic theology allows Muslims to implement Sharia Law against such transgressors and we see this happening today. Sharia Law calls for:

1.) Stoning homosexuals and adulterers to death.

2.) Killing an unruly child and anyone who strays from the faith of Islam.

3.) Whipping a person for being caught drinking wine. Whipping them again the second time they are caught. Killing them the third time they are caught.

4.) Cutting off the hand of a thief.

5.) ....gee, this is sure sounding like what the old Mosaic Laws called for before Jesus established The New Covenant between God and mankind.

BTW: The four (4) capital punishments in Islam for major offenders are these:

1. Decapitation by the sword;

2. Stoning them to death;

3. Strangulation to death;

4. Burning them to death

Sure sounds like Old Testament Orthodox Punishments - the ones that Christ did away with through The New Covenant between God and mankind.

[rmorse]

Originally Posted by bcp

1 Corinthians 6:9-10

Good catch, thanks. So is it only called out once in the NT? Outside of sexual immorality, of course.

[bcp (Premo)]

Originally Posted by rmorse

Good catch, thanks. So is it only called out once in the NT? Outside of sexual immorality, of course.

Yes, as far as I can remember its only called out once. But it is there.
Of course you also have to consider that there was (to my knowledge) no word for homosexual in that time, but I think the wording in original was something like man laying with man.

as far as the sins from the OT, they are still sins, but we no longer are the ones to judge them. Jesus specifically made that clear.
Homosexuality is no greater sin than the others, the only unforgivable sin is to take the Lords Name in vain, or, denounce him totally.
But, this is somewhat of a conflict to me.
If for instance you, take the Lords name in vain, and you denounce him, yet next year you find Christ and accept him as your Saviour, you are saved by his own words.
So to answer the original question can gays go to heaven? Yes they can. Because if they cant because of being homosexuals, then Im going to hell with them or some of the things I have done/do.

[MDSupremacist]

Originally Posted by cheezgrits

Read most this single thread and see how you christians can't even agree with each other over definitions of sin and tell me again how mocking you people for not having common sense is wrong...

And I did not mean to mock, meant to show an example of the truth as I see it.

And all of the atheists, evolutionists, Muslims, Pagans, and Indians agree among themselves? That is rich.

Funny, when Catholics claim the pope is infallible, people scream "no man can always be right." But when regular people disagree you complain about that too. Why are you so desperate to prove Christians wrong? Like sodomites you have some nagging feeling that you are wrong and you are trying with all your might to drown it out. give it up, you'll never believe yourself.