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Old 12-03-2012, 04:37 PM   #21
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...No doubt Mary was a fine, loving mother to Jesus and at least five other children through Joseph. She stood by Him to his death and resurrection, and during the formation of the early Christian church (Acts 1:12-14).

We respect Mary for what she was, her knowledge of the scriptures, and her willingness to follow Gods will.

..In the grand scheme of eternity, she was, is, and will be but a footnote in the Light of His glory and grace.
Exactly.

What Catholics are unable to understand is that Protestant/Evangelical Christians have always had a respectful regard for Mary and her special role as mentioned in the Bibical accounts. However, the Truth is that the "Catholic Mary" varies greatly from the description of the Biblical (Protestant) Mary. We do not agree with the Marian teachings by papal decree and find no Scriptural evidence that supports Catholic Catechism in regard to Mary.

For example: There is No Biblical Scripture that indicates Mary was:

1.) Born without original sin; aka "Immaculate Conception" ;

2.) Remained a "perpetual virgin" after the birth of Jesus;

3.) "Assumed" bodily up to Heaven after her death, as taught by the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) ;

4.) Would be bestowed the titles of "Queen of Heaven," "Queen of the angels" ;

5.) That she would assist Jesus as a "co-Redemptrix," who could help souls get into Heaven;

6.) That individuals could pray to her as being their "Advocate" and Co-Mediatrix" and that she would pass the prayer petitions along to Jesus;

7.) That she would replace the Holy Spirit as "Comforter" ;

8.) That she would make "apparitional appearances" throughout history as a spirit-guide;

9.) That she would expect the establishment of multiple religious festivities in her honor (there are more festivities in honor of Mary than there are for Jesus in RCC teachings) ;

etc...


We have covered this before. The RCC not only preaches another gospel and another Jesus; the RCC also preaches "another Mary" than what is taught in the Biblical Gospels.

The Catholic Mary is NOT the Biblical Mary that is taught in Protestant/Evangelical Christianity.
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Old 12-03-2012, 04:50 PM   #22
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The Catholic Mary is NOT the Biblical Mary that is taught in Protestant/Evangelical Christianity.
You got that right. Same scripture and a different Mary that even Protestant/sola scriptura adherents can't agree on. Go figure. Need I mention yet again the need for an authority?
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You got that right. Same scripture and a different Mary that even Protestant/sola scriptura adherents can't agree on. Go figure. Need I mention yet again the need for an authority?
Hmm... I hope you aren't referring to the "authority" that has admitted that there has never been Scriptural proof of Mary's "Assumption" but went ahead and made it an official teaching in 1950!

And, I definitely hope you aren't referring to the "authority" that has finally admitted to miscalculating the birth year of Jesus as well as there knowingly being a miscalculation of the Crucifixion date of Jesus and placed those events on pagan holiday dates.
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Hmm... I hope you aren't referring to the "authority" that has admitted that there has never been Scriptural proof of Mary's "Assumption" but went ahead and made it an official teaching in 1950!

And, I definitely hope you aren't referring to the "authority" that has finally admitted to miscalculating the birth year of Jesus as well as there knowingly being a miscalculation of the Crucifixion date of Jesus and placed those events on pagan holiday dates.
Better that than none.
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Better that than none.
Everyday should be "Christmas" ; Not for people to give gifts but to focus on the Gift that God gave to mankind.

The Great Commission is to be remembered and told 24/7.
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Everyday should be "Christmas" ; Not for people to give gifts but to focus on the Gift that God gave to mankind.

The Great Commission is to be remembered and told 24/7.
Of course, but there's no harm or foul in setting aside special days for special celebrations; i.e. following a liturgical calendar. Surely the entire life of Christ is so great it can't be contemplated or spoken about in one hour or even one day. If you don't celebrate in this manner then I'd say your expression of your faith must be extraordinarily...dry and parched.
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Of course, but there's no harm or foul in setting aside special days for special celebrations; i.e. following a liturgical calendar. Surely the entire life of Christ is so great it can't be contemplated or spoken about in one hour or even one day. If you don't celebrate in this manner then I'd say your expression of your faith must be extraordinarily...dry and parched.
Hmm... I don't know about you, Radiant1, but my faith would be dry and parched if I limited the expression of my faith only to certain dates of the year.
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Hmm... I don't know about you, Radiant1, but my faith would be dry and parched if I limited the expression of my faith only to certain dates of the year.
I'd hardly call it limited, but to each their own I guess. Since you don't "limit" yourself in such a manner then I assume it's safe to say that you wish everyone a merry Christmas every day? And a happy Easter too?
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And, I definitely hope you aren't referring to the "authority" that has finally admitted to miscalculating the birth year of Jesus as well as there knowingly being a miscalculation of the Crucifixion date of Jesus and placed those events on pagan holiday dates.
Since neither of these dates is a matter of salvation, who the heck cares? Additionally, and I believe we went over this before with you, if you are celebrating Christmas on Dec. 25, then you adhere to the pagan holiday established by the Catholic Church. Go figure.
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Since neither of these dates is a matter of salvation, who the heck cares? Additionally, and I believe we went over this before with you, if you are celebrating Christmas on Dec. 25, then you adhere to the pagan holiday established by the Catholic Church. Go figure.
I rest my case.
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