Muslim Ritual At Alleged U.S. Mosque

[Homesick]

Graphic Video: Stunning Moment as Child Is Coached on Self-Flagellation During Bloody Muslim Ritual at Alleged U.S. Mosque | Video | TheBlaze.com

[Starman3000m]

Look for more of this to happen where Muslim communities are established in America.

There will be an increase of these religious rituals including sacrifice of goats. Muslim groups can claim that any interference by the government will be a violation of their Constitutional Rights if they are prevented from partaking in their freedom of "religious expression".

[Radiant1]

Originally Posted by Homesick

Graphic Video: Stunning Moment as Child Is Coached on Self-Flagellation During Bloody Muslim Ritual at Alleged U.S. Mosque | Video | TheBlaze.com

You mean Muslims were performing a religious ritual at a mosque? Say it ain't so!!

In a phone interview, Media Relations Officer Randy Vaughn said that he could not definitively say that the mosque in the clip is the Shia Islamic Education Center, as he is not located in the Wildwood area (he indicated, though, that he does believe it is the same house of worship). However, he and Capt. Kenneth Williams, who is the local precinct director, both reviewed the footage and determined that the activities surrounding the child are likely legal and covered under religious freedom provisions.

“We both looked at it and said…we don’t think…there is a crime,” Vaughn told TheBlaze. “I didn’t see a crime taking place based on the [legal] books we consult [and legislation].”

At least they were beating themselves and not each other.

Geesh, next thing you know someone will try to take my cilice from me. Heh.

[Starman3000m]

Mosques not only are worship centers; they also serve as justice centers for meting out legal rulings in accordance to Sharia' Law. The United Kingdom is a good example of what goes on within an Islamic mosque and what will be (is) happening in America.


(here's a glimpse)

The tribunals, working mainly from mosques, settle financial and family disputes according to religious principles. They lay down judgments which can be given full legal status if approved in national law courts...

However, they operate behind doors that are closed to independent observers and their decisions are likely to be unfair to women and backed by intimidation, a report by independent think-tank Civitas said.

UK: Britain has 85 sharia courts – The astonishing spread of the Islamic justice behind closed doors «

[cheezgrits]

So is there this much prejudice and outrage for the hyper evangelical snake handlers? Or the sects of Christianity that don't believe in modern medicine and let their children suffer?

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by cheezgrits

So is there this much prejudice and outrage for the hyper evangelical snake handlers? Or the sects of Christianity that don't believe in modern medicine and let their children suffer?

Yes, I believe there have been previous threads/discussions from a while back regarding the religious cults and pseudo-Christian denominations that practice such type of "showmanship" and of those groups that prevent their children (and adults) from seeking medical help available that could have saved the individual's life.

There are overzealous ministers who have actually faked miracle healings in order to "wow" the crowds and in order to rake in more money and gain notoriety. Many are on television this day and are using God's Word for self-gain.

There were people like that in the days when Jesus and the Apostles were ministering. Nothing has changed and deception within religions still goes on as long as there are gullible people who trust in man rather than trust in God for guidance through the indwelling Holy Spirit that Christ said would be sent to be our Comforter, Teacher and Helper in our daily walk and relationship with God through faith in Christ.

Jesus Promises the Holy Spirit

“If you love me, keep my commands. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.
(John 14:15-17)

and

False Teachers and Their Destruction

But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. (2 Peter 2:2-3)

And the warning to those starting out in Christian faith:

I am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray. As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him. (1 John 2:26-27)

[hotcoffee]

Originally Posted by cheezgrits

So is there this much prejudice and outrage for the hyper evangelical snake handlers? Or the sects of Christianity that don't believe in modern medicine and let their children suffer?

I think you'll find that there is prejudice and outrage of some degree between all the different Christian [and jewish] religions.

Everyone wants to do it right. If you have been taught that by worshiping another way would be blastphemy then you are careful to follow exactly the way you are taught to worship.

Here's an article that might put it in a little better light.

Link

I should add.... my ancesters were Protestant Irish and we came to the United States endentured to Sir Thomas Dent in the early 17th century when our home was taken from us in the reformation. We were merchants but we were not allowed to trade after the reformation.

Everyone believes they are doing the right thing.... that's what makes it so difficult....

[Homesick]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

Look for more of this to happen where Muslim communities are established in America.

There will be an increase of these religious rituals including sacrifice of goats. Muslim groups can claim that any interference by the government will be a violation of their Constitutional Rights if they are prevented from partaking in their freedom of "religious expression".

Yes. I see child abuse here. But, Muslims can do no wrong.

[Radiant1]

Originally Posted by Homesick

Yes. I see child abuse here. But, Muslims can do no wrong.

Muslims can do plenty wrong, and do, but I'm not sure how you see this as child abuse? Would it be child abuse if a Christian child saw their parent's skin rubbed raw from wearing a hairshirt daily? Is it child abuse to circumcise a Jewish male child? Is it child abuse for a Native American to encourage a Mandan hook hanging?

Bolded emphasis mine.

In a phone interview, Media Relations Officer Randy Vaughn said that he could not definitively say that the mosque in the clip is the Shia Islamic Education Center, as he is not located in the Wildwood area (he indicated, though, that he does believe it is the same house of worship). However, he and Capt. Kenneth Williams, who is the local precinct director, both reviewed the footage and determined that the activities surrounding the child are likely legal and covered under religious freedom provisions.

“We both looked at it and said…we don’t think…there is a crime,” Vaughn told TheBlaze. “I didn’t see a crime taking place based on the [legal] books we consult [and legislation].”

While an infraction is not visible in the clip, the media relations officer said that he wouldn’t want his kids to watch such a procession. But his personal views and what’s legal, at least in this case, are not mutually exclusive.

While self-flagellation may seem like a bizarre occurrence to most Westerners, the practice is somewhat common in Shia Islamic circles and is rooted in Hussein’s untimely death. The practice of beating oneself is generally not considered illegal if done for religious reasons, however the presence of children is, to a degree, curious (however, again, not necessarily illegal).

Look, as long as Muslims aren't breaking laws, then they are entitled to their religious practices. Same with Christians, Jews, Hindus, whomever. If you want to take away a Muslim's right to practice their faith because it disturbs you, then be prepared for someone to take away yours. The USA is a nation of freedoms, sometimes that has consequences that you may personally dislike, but oh well, that's the way it goes. You don't get to pick and choose who has constitutional rights and who doesn't.

[Homesick]

Intolerant Faith: Brutal Ritualistic Self-Flagellation Forced Upon Children