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Old 12-26-2012, 06:03 PM   #1
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IMAM - sin to wish someone 'Merry Christmas'

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AUSTRALIAN MOSQUE POSTS FACEBOOK ‘FATWA’ ON CHRISTMAS…THEN TAKES IT DOWN



The largest mosque in Australia posted a Facebook “fatwa” against Christmas — warning followers that it’s a “sin” even to wish people a Merry Christmas — before taking it down, the Sydney Morning Herald reported.

The ruling, posted Saturday by the Lakemba Mosque in Sydney, said the “disbelievers are trying to draw Muslims away from the straight path” and that “a Muslim is neither allowed to celebrate the Christmas Day nor is he allowed to congratulate [Christians].” It went up following a sermon from the mosque’s head imam against participating in any Christmas-related activities.

On wishing people a Merry Christmas, the fatwa stated that a “Muslim who says this does not become a disbeliever himself, he at least commits a sin as this is the same as congratulating him for his belief in the trinity, which is a greater sin and much more disliked by Almighty Allaah than congratulating him for drinking alcohol or killing a soul or committing fornication or adultery.”

The president of the Lebanese Muslim Association, which oversees the mosque, told the Herald that the message had been posted by a young worker who copied the text from another Islamic website. The fatwa did not represent the views of the mosque’s imam and was taken down, Samier Dandan said.

Before it was removed, the fatwa drew condemnation from other Muslim leaders: The Grand Mufti of Australia, Ibrahim Abu Mohammad, said Islam believes in peace and respect for others and that the view was not shared by the majority of Australia’s Muslims.

so they hide there true intentions on non English web sites .... someone let the cat out
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:00 PM   #2
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What do you expect Muslims to believe? The consider the Trinity to be a form of idolatry. Logically it would seem normal for them.
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Old 12-26-2012, 09:11 PM   #3
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Welcome to the 3rd crusade........

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Old 12-26-2012, 09:44 PM   #4
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But it's not a sin to marry & molest 9 year old girls and murder innocent people at will. Yeah; their punishment will be well deserved.
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Old 12-28-2012, 08:15 PM   #5
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remember "FATWA" is a persons opinion for a person or people of that area not everyone around the world. His Fatwa is only for the muslims in Australia not the rest of the world.
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Old 12-28-2012, 11:24 PM   #6
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remember "FATWA" is a persons opinion for a person or people of that area not everyone around the world. His Fatwa is only for the muslims in Australia not the rest of the world.
Perhaps, but this ruling had to originate from Islamic teaching in regard to how a Muslim interacts with a non-Muslim. Offering cordial greetings to non-Muslims, especially those whom Islam considers as "polytheists," would not be appropriate. Case in point is the teaching from the Qur'an that forbids Muslims from befriending Jews and Christians:

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"O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust."
(The Qur'an: 005.051)

"O ye who believe! Take not my enemies and yours as friends (or protectors),- offering them (your) love, even though they have rejected the Truth that has come to you, and have (on the contrary) driven out the Prophet and yourselves (from your homes), (simply) because ye believe in Allah your Lord! If ye have come out to strive in My Way and to seek My Good Pleasure, (take them not as friends), holding secret converse of love (and friendship) with them: for I know full well all that ye conceal and all that ye reveal. And any of you that does this has strayed from the Straight Path."
(The Qur'an: 060.001)
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Old 12-29-2012, 03:38 PM   #7
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Perhaps, but this ruling had to originate from Islamic teaching in regard to how a Muslim interacts with a non-Muslim. Offering cordial greetings to non-Muslims, especially those whom Islam considers as "polytheists," would not be appropriate. Case in point is the teaching from the Qur'an that forbids Muslims from befriending Jews and Christians:
I sure am not going to waste my time arguing a recycled arguement.
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I sure am not going to waste my time arguing a recycled arguement.
Okay.
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Perhaps, but this ruling had to originate from Islamic teaching in regard to how a Muslim interacts with a non-Muslim. Offering cordial greetings to non-Muslims, especially those whom Islam considers as "polytheists," would not be appropriate. Case in point is the teaching from the Qur'an that forbids Muslims from befriending Jews and Christians:
Is calling Muslims saying "Merry Christmas" a sin really any different than you fundies constantly attacking Catholics and anyone else who believes differently than you?

Would you consider it a sin for a Christian to say "Allahu Akhbar?"
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Is calling Muslims saying "Merry Christmas" a sin really any different than you fundies constantly attacking Catholics and anyone else who believes differently than you?

Would you consider it a sin for a Christian to say "Allahu Akhbar?"
No it is not. They way it was explained to me is this. If saying Merry Christmas to a person that belives Jesus as the son of God, the holy spirit and God then YES it would be considered wrong because Muslims beleive in Jesus as a prophet. However, if you say Merry christmas to a person that does not beleive in the religious significance then it is ok. My Muslim friend says to every one and any one because he feels it is a religion of one of the people of the book.

You also have to realize alot of these so called Fatwas(OPINONS) by clerics(or imams from certain mosques) are never debated by the "certified" scholars because its just plain a waste of thier time.
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