Wycliffe Bible - Circa 1380's AD

[GURPS (Premo)]

my how english has changed

Genesis gen.
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CAP 1
1 In the bigynnyng God made of nouyt heuene and erthe.
2 Forsothe the erthe was idel and voide, and derknessis weren on the face of depthe; and the Spiryt of the Lord was borun on the watris.
3 And God seide, Liyt be maad, and liyt was maad.
4 And God seiy the liyt, that it was good, and he departide the liyt fro derknessis; and he clepide the liyt,
5 dai, and the derknessis, nyyt. And the euentid and morwetid was maad, o daie.
6 And God seide, The firmament be maad in the myddis of watris, and departe watris fro watris.
7 And God made the firmament, and departide the watris that weren vndur the firmament fro these watris that weren on the firmament; and it was don so.
8 And God clepide the firmament, heuene. And the euentid and morwetid was maad, the secounde dai.
9 Forsothe God seide, The watris, that ben vndur heuene, be gaderid in to o place, and a drie place appere; and it was doon so.
10 And God clepide the drie place, erthe; and he clepide the gadryngis togidere of watris, the sees. And God seiy that it was good;
11 and seide, The erthe brynge forth greene eerbe and makynge seed, and appil tre makynge fruyt bi his kynde, whos seed be in it silf on erthe; and it was doon so.
12 And the erthe brouyte forth greene erbe and makynge seed bi his kynde, and a tre makynge fruyt, and ech hauynge seed by his kynde. And God seiy that it was good.
13 And the euentid and morwetid was maad, the thridde dai.
14 Forsothe God seide, Liytis be maad in the firmament of heuene, and departe tho the dai and niyt; and be tho in to signes, and tymes, and daies, and yeeris;
15 and shyne tho in the firmament of heuene, and liytne tho the erthe; and it was doon so.
16 And God made twei grete liytis, the gretter liyt that it schulde be bifore to the dai, and the lesse liyt that it schulde be bifore to the niyt;
17 and God made sterris; and settide tho in the firmament of heuene, that tho schulden schyne on erthe,
18 and that tho schulden be bifore to the dai and nyyt, and schulden departe liyt and derknesse. And God seiy that it was good.
19 And the euentid and the morwetid was maad, the fourthe dai.
20 Also God seide, The watris brynge forth a `crepynge beeste of lyuynge soule, and a brid fleynge aboue erthe vndur the firmament of heuene.
21 And God made of nouyt grete whallis, and ech lyuynge soule and mouable, whiche the watris han brouyt forth in to her kyndis; and God made of nouyt ech volatile bi his kynde. And God seiy that it was good;
22 and blesside hem, and seide, Wexe ye, and be ye multiplied, and fille ye the watris of the see, and briddis be multiplied on erthe.
23 And the euentid and the morwetid was maad, the fyuethe dai.
24 And God seide, The erthe brynge forth a lyuynge soul in his kynde, werk beestis, and `crepynge beestis, and vnresonable beestis of erthe, bi her kyndis; and it was don so.25 And God made vnresonable beestis of erthe bi her kyndes, and werk beestis, `and ech crepynge beeste of erthe in his
kynde. And God seiy that it was good; and seide

[onel0126]

....and Catholics get slammed for Latin

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by GURPS

my how english has changed

lol - So it appears John Wycliffe may have had a bit of trouble in Spelling Class, however, here are some interesting things to give him extra-credit for:

The very first English translation of the Bible were hand written manuscripts done by John Wycliffe in the 1380’s AD. John Wycliffe was an Oxford professor, scholar, and a theologian who was known through out Europe of being against the teachings of the organized Churches during this time period. He saw a difference in the organizational church practices and teachings than what he understood to be the correct teachings of the official Bible.

John Wycliffe translated the first official Bible scriptures from Latin to English. A follower of Wycliffe was John Hus. According to Hus, he too believed in the teachings of all people should be able to read the Bible in their own languages. This again went against the Roman church and that anyone owning a Bible that was non-Latin should be executed. In 1415 John Hus was burned at the stake with the Bibles that were of non-Latin writings. The first man to translate the Bible into German was Martin Luther in 1517. Although there were those who were teaching their children the Bible in English, the Bible was not officially translated into English until 1496. John Colet was the son of the mayor of London and an Oxford professor whom had started learning the Bible in Greek, but would translate it into English for his students. Although John Colet taught the Bible in English, it was William Tyndale whom actually succeeded to put the New Testament into print between 1525 and 1526.

It had been believed by the church officials and kings that if everyone understood the teachings of God in their own languages that this would crumble the whole church system of power and money, so many were executed just for possession of any Bible outside of the Latin written Bible. By 1535 Myles Coverdale and John “Thomas Matthew” Rogers finished translating the Old Testament into English and the very first Old and New Testament English Bible was officially printed on October 4th, 1535. Through time there were slightly different variations of the English Bible, but close to 90% was still based upon the original translations of William Tyndale.
The First English Bible

and;

The first hand-written English language Bible manuscripts were produced in 1380's AD by John Wycliffe, an Oxford professor, scholar, and theologian. Wycliffe, (also spelled “Wycliff” & “Wyclif”), was well-known throughout Europe for his opposition to the teaching of the organized Church, which he believed to be contrary to the Bible. With the help of his followers, called the Lollards, and his assistant Purvey, and many other faithful scribes, Wycliffe produced dozens of English language manuscript copies of the scriptures.
They were translated out of the Latin Vulgate, which was the only source text available to Wycliffe. The Pope was so infuriated by his teachings and his translation of the Bible into English, that 44 years after Wycliffe had died, he ordered the bones to be dug-up, crushed, and scattered in the river!
PB:THE WYCLIFFE BIBLE - Logos Bible Software Forums

[onel0126]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

lol - So it appears John Wycliffe may have had a bit of trouble in Spelling Class, however, here are some interesting things to give him extra-credit for:

And one major thing to completely discredit him....His belief in predestination

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by onel0126

And one major thing to completely discredit him....His belief in predestination

lol - I wouldn't count this as something to personally discredit his ministry for and I see this more as a minor thing when it comes to living as a Christian. The point of Salvation offered to mankind is through repentance and personal faith in Jesus Christ alone as the Son of God, Lamb of God, Risen Saviour of mankind and the Jewish Messiah who will one day return, according to Scripture.

Basically, we are partakers of the Promise of God's Saving Grace through faith in Christ alone, it's just that the basis of how that faith was received differs.

[cheezgrits]

Looks like he did it via text message.

[Zguy28]

Originally Posted by onel0126

And one major thing to completely discredit him....His belief in predestination

Even more reason to like him!

[Zguy28]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

lol - So it appears John Wycliffe may have had a bit of trouble in Spelling Class,

Actually, that was the language of the day, Middle English.

Chaucer's Canterbury Tales came from almost the same time.

Prologue to the Canterbury Tales
The Prologue, Middle English - Canterbury Tales - Geoffrey Chaucer (1340?-1400)

Whan that aprill with his shoures soote
The droghte of march hath perced to the roote,
And bathed every veyne in swich licour
Of which vertu engendred is the flour;
Whan zephirus eek with his sweete breeth
Inspired hath in every holt and heeth
Tendre croppes, and the yonge sonne
Hath in the ram his halve cours yronne,
And smale foweles maken melodye,
That slepen al the nyght with open ye
(so priketh hem nature in hir corages);
Thanne longen folk to goon on pilgrimages,
And palmeres for to seken straunge strondes,
To ferne halwes, kowthe in sondry londes;
And specially from every shires ende
Of engelond to caunterbury they wende,
The hooly blisful martir for to seke,
That hem hath holpen whan that they were seeke.
Bifil that in that seson on a day,
In southwerk at the tabard as I lay
Redy to wenden on my pilgrymage
To caunterbury with ful devout corage,
At nyght was come into that hostelrye
Wel nyne and twenty in a compaignye,
Of sondry folk, by aventure yfalle
In felaweshipe, and pilgrimes were they alle,
That toward caunterbury wolden ryde.
The chambres and the stables weren wyde,
And wel we weren esed atte beste.
And shortly, whan the sonne was to reste,
So hadde I spoken with hem everichon
That I was of hir felaweshipe anon,
And made forward erly for to ryse,
To take oure wey ther as I yow devyse.
But nathelees, whil I have tyme and space,
Er that I ferther in this tale pace,
Me thynketh it acordaunt to resoun
To telle yow al the condicioun
Of ech of hem, so as it semed me,
And whiche they weren, and of what degree,
And eek in what array that they were inne;
And at a knyght than wol I first bigynne.

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by Zguy28

Actually, that was the language of the day, Middle English.

Chaucer's Canterbury Tales came from almost the same time.

Prologue to the Canterbury Tales
The Prologue, Middle English - Canterbury Tales - Geoffrey Chaucer (1340?-1400)

Yep, Chaucer also failed his Spelling Class.

[onel0126]

Originally Posted by Zguy28

Even more reason to like him!

You know that wasn't aimed at you personally my Calvinist friend!