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Old 12-27-2012, 12:39 PM   #1
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Priest say's women bring violence on themselves

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1...mselves-priest

An Italian priest has sparked anger for claiming women bring domestic violence on themselves by dressing provocatively and neglecting housework.

A Catholic priest has sparked outrage in Italy by claiming women bring domestic violence on themselves by dressing provocatively and neglecting housework, Italian media report.

"How often do we see girls and mature women going around scantily dressed and in provocative clothes?" Piero Corsi said in a Christmas message posted on the door of his church in the small town of San Terenzio in northwest Italy.
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Old 12-27-2012, 07:09 PM   #2
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"How often do we see girls and mature women going around scantily dressed and in provocative clothes?"
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Old 12-28-2012, 09:36 PM   #4
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So where is all the up in arms at over this? Substitute priest with imam and change catholic to islam and majority around here would be screaming about the terrorists...
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So where is all the up in arms at over this? Substitute priest with imam and change catholic to islam and majority around here would be screaming about the terrorists...
Perhaps the priest was also issuing this verbal warning to women for their own safety in these perilous times and so that they do not become future victims of what has been going on in Europe and the Netherlands.

Since you mentioned "substituting" Priest with Imam, well, perhaps the following article will tell the story:

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[T]he Mufti of Australia, Sheikh Taj al-Din al-Hilali, …recently sparked an international stir by pronouncing that women who do not veil themselves, and allow themselves to be “uncovered meat,” are at fault if they are raped...

No wonder why many Muslim rapists openly admit their actions and justify them smugly with casual references to their religious and cultural beliefs. This horrifying phenomenon was on display in a court trial in Australia last year, in which a Muslim rapist, going by the name ”MSK”, taunted his sobbing 14-year-old victim and proudly professed the legitimacy of his sexual assaults on young girls by explaining that his victims were not veiled — as the Islamic religion mandates women to be...

In Holland, myriad women now bear the horrible scar that has infamously become known as “smiley,” whereby one side of the face is cut up from mouth to ear – a war mark left by Muslim rapists as a warning to other women who don’t veil themselves.

In France, the phenomenon of Muslim gang rape as punishment for non-veiling even has a word to describe it: “tournante” (take your turn). In areas where Muslims form the majority (i.e. the Muslim suburb of Courneuve, France), even non-Muslim women feel pressured to veil themselves in fear of Muslim sexual and physical punishment.

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Old 12-28-2012, 11:07 PM   #6
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Perhaps the priest was also issuing this verbal warning to women for their own safety in these perilous times and so that they do not become future victims of what has been going on in Europe and the Netherlands.

Since you mentioned "substituting" Priest with Imam, well, perhaps the following article will tell the story:

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God did create man, and then, woman in his own image; so, I think a woman's body should not be so ogled; so, we should be able to dress how we like. But, in the same turn, I tend to be more modest in my dress, and not let it all hang out. This is a tough topic to argue. Our "nakedness" should not be an issue, but, then again, God was the one responsible for making it "pleasurable" to procreate, and that is why there is the attraction to our parts. This is a definite Catch-22 topic. It will be interesting to see what everyone has to say. As far as the housework, I will get to it when I can. I love dust bunnies!
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God did create man, and then, woman in his own image; so, I think a woman's body should not be so ogled; so, we should be able to dress how we like. But, in the same turn, I tend to be more modest in my dress, and not let it all hang out. This is a tough topic to argue. Our "nakedness" should not be an issue, but, then again, God was the one responsible for making it "pleasurable" to procreate. This is a definite Catch-22 topic. It will be interesting to see what everyone has to say.

Hi mamatutu,
Apparently this was an issue that was addressed at the start of the early Christian church. Men were given basic guidelines for their conduct and women were given basic guidelines for their conduct and appearance:

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Therefore I want the men everywhere to pray, lifting up holy hands without anger or disputing. I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God. (1 Timothy 2:8-10)
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Old 12-28-2012, 11:54 PM   #8
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Apparently this was an issue that was addressed at the start of the early Christian church. Men were given basic guidelines for their conduct and women were given basic guidelines for their conduct and appearance:
Hey, Starman! This subject is so complicated, that I will have to think about it tomorrow. Take care.
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Old 12-29-2012, 08:34 AM   #9
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So, Starman, are you saying that the priest is right?? Are you subscribing to the the "she deserves it if she dresses like that" theory?

Do you not see the comparison between the oppression of women in Islam and what this priest said?

Please tell me you would not just blindly defend someone because of their religious affiliation.
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Hi mamatutu,
Apparently this was an issue that was addressed at the start of the early Christian church. Men were given basic guidelines for their conduct and women were given basic guidelines for their conduct and appearance:
Apparently a lot of people on this forum listen to WAVA.... this was just discussed on that radio station.

Women have been given a hard way to go since the beginning of time. Maybe that's why Satan talked to Eve first.... I read somewhere in the Old Testament that if a woman is taken by a man and she doesn't cry out, the man isn't guilty of rape. Women couldn't own property [until two sisters got that changed] and when their husband died, a family member of the husband had to take the woman for his wife. That way the land would stay in the family. She didn't have much say in it.

Take Jacob's two wives as another example. He barganined with his uncle for them..... His uncle slipped the older of the two in there first even tho Jacob and the younger sister were in love. The women didn't have any say in the matter.....

Women were never allowed to lead worship.... course maybe that's because the priests had to be capable of hacking an ox for sacrifice and that might be a bit difficult for the average girl.... But in the New Testament when the sacrifices were no longer part of the worship, there were no women who were allowed to lead a worship service. There were a few very capable women at the time too!

I do believe that if my husband ever laid a hand on me beacuse I was dressed provocatively.... it would be the last time he touched me.

IMHO.... most women are really disrespected in the Bible.... it's a real shame....

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