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Old 01-07-2013, 09:28 AM   #41
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As do we all, that doesn't mean she had no as you put "true spiritual relationship with God". The simple Footprints in the Sand poem, which I'm sure you're familiar with, speaks to that.



Cheezgrits, Mother Theresa did not say she was gong to hell, and The Thrower of Stones has absolutely no way of knowing. It's times like this that I'm rather glad we differentiate Christians between Catholic and Protestant because I don't want to be associated with someone like him either.
Thats ok I still love ya ;-)
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Old 01-07-2013, 10:57 AM   #42
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No, I would not! The Bible is clear on this and so have I in other threads. I would help them understand their need for a savior using the law and point out that if you continue in sin your of the devil, not a Christian, no matter how self deceived they may be.

An unrepentant sinner cannot understand Gods word, that’s why your organization doesn’t interpret scripture correctly, and teaches false hoods, that and Satan being behind it and its motives, to keep men trapped in religious duty focusing on externals and not on Christ.
So what you're saying is that an unrepentent sinner cannot understand scripture, but yet they can't become a repentent sinner unless you tell them they are and therefore no one can pick up the bible, read it, and become saved without someone to interpet it for them. Be careful here, you wouldn't want to set yourself up as an authority on scriptural interpretation or a pope because that would be of Satan and make you of the devil--the gospel of a Stone Thrower.

For a supposedly educated man, you sure are stupid.
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Old 01-07-2013, 01:11 PM   #43
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So what you're saying is that an unrepentent sinner cannot understand scripture, but yet they can't become a repentent sinner unless you tell them they are and therefore no one can pick up the bible, read it, and become saved without someone to interpet it for them. Be careful here, you wouldn't want to set yourself up as an authority on scriptural interpretation or a pope because that would be of Satan and make you of the devil--the gospel of a Stone Thrower.

For a supposedly educated man, you sure are stupid.
Your craziness ideas not mine!

The word of God can change someones heart if the Holy Spirit is using it, as well as the preching of the word!

Even JPC can read the Bible and understand the english words, what he cant do is decern them correctly without the Holy Spirit.
Its obvious Rome cant teach the word of God correctly, either by choice for organizational gain and control, or out of ignorance because the Holy Spirit is not present.

Could there be Christians in the organization YES, but not because of the church, but in spite of it. How they could remain though if they are truely born again and read their Bibles is a mystery as the Bible and Rome are incompatiable!
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Old 01-07-2013, 01:29 PM   #44
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We now have a squawking parrot and his mocking bird.

Starman's mini-me------------------>Stoned Man

The Church of Stoned Man coming soon, to a stripmall near you, where you can:
1. Quote all the scripture you want with your own interpertation.
2. Smash statues of Mary
3. Quote Saint Paul to find discrepancies with the Catholic Church and not even call him Saint Paul.
4. Condemn to hell anyone who disagrees with you.
5. Squawk like a parrot.
6. Mock like a mockingbird
7. Try to prove to people that there are two Jesus's and two Bibles when the whole world knows there is only one of each.
8. Act like you are the second coming of Christ.
9. Teach your children to hate Catholics
10. Chase people away from God with your arrogance.
I am so unworthy to be compared to Starman, so I will defer the correction false teaching of Rome and Islam to him.
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Old 01-07-2013, 01:33 PM   #45
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Your craziness ideas not mine!

The word of God can change someones heart if the Holy Spirit is using it, as well as the preching of the word!

Even JPC can read the Bible and understand the english words, what he cant do is decern them correctly without the Holy Spirit.
Its obvious Rome cant teach the word of God correctly, either by choice for organizational gain and control, or out of ignorance because the Holy Spirit is not present.

Could there be Christians in the organization YES, but not because of the church, but in spite of it. How they could remain though if they are truely born again and read their Bibles is a mystery as the Bible and Rome are incompatiable!
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Your craziness ideas not mine!

The word of God can change someones heart if the Holy Spirit is using it, as well as the preching of the word!
You mean preaching is guided by the Holy Spirit? You don't say!!!

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Even JPC can read the Bible and understand the english words, what he cant do is decern them correctly without the Holy Spirit.
But an unreprentent sinner does not have the Holy Spirit and you said they cannot understand scripture so they need you to tell them. That's CRAZINESS!!

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Its obvious Rome cant teach the word of God correctly, either by choice for organizational gain and control, or out of ignorance because the Holy Spirit is not present.

Could there be Christians in the organization YES, but not because of the church, but in spite of it. How they could remain though if they are truely born again and read their Bibles is a mystery as the Bible and Rome are incompatiable!
Oh yeah, it's obvious when people don't have the Holy Spirit.

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I know, right? I think the phrases "blinded by hatred" and "cognitive dissonance" applies here.
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So what you're saying is that an unrepentent sinner cannot understand scripture, but yet they can't become a repentent sinner unless you tell them they are and therefore no one can pick up the bible, read it, and become saved without someone to interpet it for them. Be careful here, you wouldn't want to set yourself up as an authority on scriptural interpretation or a pope because that would be of Satan and make you of the devil--the gospel of a Stone Thrower.

For a supposedly educated man, you sure are stupid.
This is why I believe regeneration preceeds faith and repentance (I know Starman et al disagree btw). All of us are spiritually dead in our natural state. An unregenerate man cannot make sense of the Word of God. A regenerate man can, and it always results in faith and repentance.
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This is why I believe regeneration preceeds faith and repentance (I know Starman et al disagree btw). All of us are spiritually dead in our natural state. An unregenerate man cannot make sense of the Word of God. A regenerate man can, and it always results in faith and repentance.
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You mean preaching is guided by the Holy Spirit? You don't say!!!



But an unrepentant sinner does not have the Holy Spirit and you said they cannot understand scripture so they need you to tell them. That's CRAZINESS!!



Oh yeah, it's obvious when people don't have the Holy Spirit.



I know, right? I think the phrases "blinded by hatred" and "cognitive dissonance" applies here.
It amazes me, that telling someone they are wrong, equates to hatred!
Sounds to me, as if your intolerant, as you cant tolerate statements that you disagree with.

I call them as I see them, like it or not, I don't sugar coat things, it has nothing to do with hate.
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It amazes me, that telling someone they are wrong, equates to hatred!
Sounds to me, as if your intolerant, as you cant tolerate statements that you disagree with.

I call them as I see them, like it or not, I don't sugar coat things, it has nothing to do with hate.
I have tolerated you since you started posting.
When you condemn my Faith you condemn me and my family who have practiced Catholcism forever.

We beleive.

As, I have suggestested to Starmann and IS, we are saved by our beliefs and if you really want to "save" souls, there are millions of non-believers that need your help. Start in the prisons, the homeless shelters, orphanages, day care centers, food pantries, etc., you will find many who need spiritual guidance.

Leave the RCC alone, we are doing just fine and do not need to be saved by someone who just crawled out of the gutter, found Jesus, opened up a stripmall "church" and spews hate on the RCC.

You want to see hate, go back to your original post,re-read it, that is hate and hate will blind and consume you, as it is already doing.

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