Which Sola Scripture Church.......

[Bird Dog (Premo)]

Originally Posted by StoneThrower

hermeneutics

So, going back to the OP if I was going to shun Catholicism, which one of the 138 "Sola Scripture" Churches in Southern Maryland would you recommend.

Do they all have the same interpretation, similar or totally different.
I see your from Lusby, so please do not lead me there as it is too far.
Definitly not Red Robin, I would be drinking a Bloody Mary during the sermon.

Something in Southern St. Mary's.
Also, please explain why it would be a good choice.
Here's the list again:

Worship & Church Directory - Southern Maryland Online

[Radiant1]

Originally Posted by StoneThrower

hermeneutics

And how does one learn hermeneutics?

[ItalianScallion (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Radiant1

...but the believer cannot be seen to have read the bible correctly until he/she is deemed to have done so by both the Holy Spirit and men ("knowledgable believers") both of whom you consider an authority. So, is it both the Holy Spirit and men ("knowledgable believers") who determine if and when the unbeliever has become a believer?

Salvation is simple and can be understood by anyone who reads the Bible. God knows if someone is a believer or not. Believers have to make a decision about someones' beliefs so we can witness (correct, rebuke & teach) to them if needed.

Do you read the Bible every day like God commands us to?
Do you take the time to study it and not just read it?

No true believer, who reads & studies the Bible properly, could ever speak against it's Divine authority and inspiration. That is VERY dangerous so why do you? The Holy Spirit has sent you ample warnings to stop speaking evil about Gods' Word but you persist in arguing it down. Very dangerous!

Originally Posted by Bird Dog

So, going back to the OP if I was going to shun Catholicism, which one of the 138 "Sola Scripture" Churches in Southern Maryland would you recommend. Do they all have the same interpretation, similar or totally different.

You also have a problem with comprehension I see. It has nothing to do with churches! Go to Gods' Word and then check to see if your church agrees with it. It's the Bible that helps us know if the churches are teaching correct doctrines. This is why you RCC folks have soo much trouble accepting SS.

[Bird Dog (Premo)]

Originally Posted by ItalianScallion

You also have a problem with comprehension I see. It has nothing to do with churches! Go to Gods' Word and then check to see if your church agrees with it. It's the Bible that helps us know if the churches are teaching correct doctrines. This is why you RCC folks have soo much trouble accepting SS.

You stated only certain persons have the ability to interpret the Bible correctly.

I am looking for the "Best One", none of you can tell me which of the 100+ Sola Srcripture chuches in SOMD can lead me in the right direction.
We should not look for a church that agrees with us, we should look for a church that steers us correctly.

That is why Sola Scriptre does not work. It takes 100+ churches to investigate in little ole Sothern Maryland to see if the church "agrees" with me.
I don't think Jesus gave us that option.

[ItalianScallion (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Bird Dog

You stated only certain persons have the ability to interpret the Bible correctly.
I am looking for the "Best One", none of you can tell me which of the 100+ Sola Srcripture chuches in SOMD can lead me in the right direction.
We should not look for a church that agrees with us, we should look for a church that steers us correctly.

What standard would you use to decide if a church is teaching the truth? You can't use your churches teachings or any teaching that contradicts Scripture. You have to use the Bible and that's why we stress that here so much. I haven't found a church around here yet that follows the Bible correctly and isn't afraid to teach it w/o watering it down with "feel good" teachings.

The reason I said that only some people can interpret Scripture correctly is because it's true. We all make mistakes understanding the Bible but the problem comes when someone tries to teach those mistakes before they find out if they're correct or not. There are wayyy too many denominations out there today and that means "division" and that's not good for Christianity.

[Radiant1]

Originally Posted by ItalianScallion

Salvation is simple and can be understood by anyone who reads the Bible. God knows if someone is a believer or not. Believers have to make a decision about someones' beliefs so we can witness (correct, rebuke & teach) to them if needed.

Apparently not, for you and I have different understandings of it. If God knows who is a believer or not, then why would He need you to make a decision about them? It's clear that what you're saying is that you rely on men as well as scripture. Btw, if you haven't noticed, I am rebuking and correcting you on your false doctrine of sola scriptura.

Originally Posted by ItalianScallion

Do you read the Bible every day like God commands us to?
Do you take the time to study it and not just read it?

No true believer, who reads & studies the Bible properly, could ever speak against it's Divine authority and inspiration. That is VERY dangerous so why do you? The Holy Spirit has sent you ample warnings to stop speaking evil about Gods' Word but you persist in arguing it down. Very dangerous!

I don't speak against divine authority, I speak out against your method of sola scriptura.

[StoneThrower]

Originally Posted by Bird Dog

So, going back to the OP if I was going to shun Catholicism, which one of the 138 "Sola Scripture" Churches in Southern Maryland would you recommend.

Do they all have the same interpretation, similar or totally different.
I see your from Lusby, so please do not lead me there as it is too far.
Definitly not Red Robin, I would be drinking a Bloody Mary during the sermon.

Something in Southern St. Mary's.
Also, please explain why it would be a good choice.
Here's the list again:

Worship & Church Directory - Southern Maryland Online

Hi,
Answering your question honestly I can’t, because I don’t know you or your preferences. Preferences in worship styles are not suppose to come into play but were sinful and human and we have them and they do.

Also I don’t believe all those churches believe in the soul authority of God’s word, not all protestant churches do.

Also I don’t have personal knowledge of what kind of pastor each one has, as pastors can make or break a church.

I get your point. I am a Reformed Baptist at heart, although I have never belonged to a Baptist church, but my church is fine even though it’s not a Baptist church.

If I were a catholic and wanted to convert I would check out Grace and Peace OPC as it’s very liturgical and the pastor was a conservative Anglican and leans heavily that way. I can’t be a Presbyterian though, as I don’t believe in infant baptism, I don’t believe in replacement theology, and I am not Amil, but if you truly believe that’s what Gods word teach than it may be a great fit.

Scripture alone is not really the issue although its huge, it’s that Gods word is infallible, without errors, God given and inspired in its entirety, and that it is everything needed to know for living a life in Christ, It tells us everything we need to know about Gods in order to adore, exalt and glorify him.
So the real question is how do you define scripture alone?

I certainly don’t uphold that you can just read a bible and not belong to a church, forsake the assembly, not participate in corporate worship, and not need to hear the proclamation of God’s word, as the Bible tells us we need all that. So how do you define it?

[Bird Dog (Premo)]

Originally Posted by StoneThrower

Hi,
Answering your question honestly I can’t, because I don’t know you or your preferences. Preferences in worship styles are not suppose to come into play but were sinful and human and we have them and they do.

Also I don’t believe all those churches believe in the soul authority of God’s word, not all protestant churches do.

Also I don’t have personal knowledge of what kind of pastor each one has, as pastors can make or break a church.

I get your point. I am a Reformed Baptist at heart, although I have never belonged to a Baptist church, but my church is fine even though it’s not a Baptist church.

If I were a catholic and wanted to convert I would check out Grace and Peace OPC as it’s very liturgical and the pastor was a conservative Anglican and leans heavily that way. I can’t be a Presbyterian though, as I don’t believe in infant baptism, I don’t believe in replacement theology, and I am not Amil, but if you truly believe that’s what Gods word teach than it may be a great fit.

Scripture alone is not really the issue although its huge, it’s that Gods word is infallible, without errors, God given and inspired in its entirety, and that it is everything needed to know for living a life in Christ, It tells us everything we need to know about Gods in order to adore, exalt and glorify him.
So the real question is how do you define scripture alone?

I certainly don’t uphold that you can just read a bible and not belong to a church, forsake the assembly, not participate in corporate worship, and not need to hear the proclamation of God’s word, as the Bible tells us we need all that. So how do you define it?

I think I am fine just where I am, as not one of the Evangelicals/non-denominationals/Baptists, etc. etc. could give a reason for switching to another, other than they disagree with the Catholic Church.

It is like a contractor who came to my house about a month or so ago and proceeded to tell me how bad and useless all the other contractors in the area were that did the same kind of work.
You don't want to use so and so he......
So and so did a job up the street and he ............etc.
Not once did he explain why I should hire him.
Obviously he did not get the work, I gave it to an old timer who has been doing that type of work way before the mouthy one was born.

[ItalianScallion (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Radiant1

If God knows who is a believer or not, then why would He need you to make a decision about them?

I/we need to make a decision as to whether someone is a believer or not so we'll know if we need to share the Gospel with them or not. Jesus called it: "making a right judgment".

Still waiting for you to show me where "sprinkling" is biblical...

Originally Posted by Radiant1

It's clear that what you're saying is that you rely on men as well as scripture. I don't speak against divine authority, I speak out against your method of sola scriptura.

I'm saying that we sometimes need men who can better explain Scripture to us so we can grow as a Christians. That isn't always needed and it doesn't prevent SS. If they're wrong in their explanation, the Holy Spirit let's us (some of us) know it. That's called discernment but many Christians don't have it. Solomon was adamant throughout Proverbs & Ecclesiastes about us getting discernment & wisdom.

You say that Scripture isn't enough (which is denying the Divine authority of Scripture). You regularly lean on RCC doctrine to supplement (or replace) Scripture.

Originally Posted by StoneThrower

I certainly don’t uphold that you can just read a bible and not belong to a church, forsake the assembly, not participate in corporate worship, and not need to hear the proclamation of God’s word, as the Bible tells us we need all that.

I'd have to disagree with you here but I like your other points.

[Radiant1]

Originally Posted by ItalianScallion

I/we need to make a decision as to whether someone is a believer or not so we'll know if we need to share the Gospel with them or not. Jesus called it: "making a right judgment".

So what do you do? Someone tells you they're a believer and then you quiz them? And how do they satisfy you that they're a believer by believing exactly as you do?

Originally Posted by ItalianScallion

Still waiting for you to show me where "sprinkling" is biblical...

1) If you think baptism is only symbolic, then why do you even care?
2) We're Catholic. What's in scripture is that we baptize and that's what we do. Perhaps you can point out to me where it says in the bible that one must immerse seeing how you're sola scriptura and all.
3) Intent and form is what Catholics care about. The only requirement is that one is baptized with the intention of entering in the life of Christ and grace, and that it's done in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Originally Posted by ItalianScallion

I'm saying that we sometimes need men who can better explain Scripture to us so we can grow as a Christians. That isn't always needed and it doesn't prevent SS. If they're wrong in their explanation, the Holy Spirit let's us (some of us) know it.

So what you're saying is that SOMETIMES you need men because only SOMETIMES the Holy Spirit actually guide someone to truth through scripture alone. And this still begs the question how one does not have the Holy Spirit if an unbeliever, but can't become a believer without the Holy Spirit that apparently only then SOMETIMES brings them to truth.

Originally Posted by ItalianScallion

That's called discernment but many Christians don't have it. Solomon was adamant throughout Proverbs & Ecclesiastes about us getting discernment & wisdom.

Yes and I'm suggesting right here and now that you get some.

Originally Posted by ItalianScallion

You say that Scripture isn't enough (which is denying the Divine authority of Scripture). You regularly lean on RCC doctrine to supplement (or replace) Scripture.

I'm saying scripture alone isn't because it was never meant to be. It was meant to go hand-in-hand with Sacred Tradition (which actually existed first by necessity). Supplement, yes as scripture supplements Tradition and Tradition supplements scripture, but replace, no.