Sola Scriptura part II

[onel0126]

Yep, I started a new one. The following blog entry is long but I found it interesting....

http://genureflection.wordpress.com/...ola-scriptura/

[Bird Dog (Premo)]

Originally Posted by onel0126

Second Thoughts on Sola Scriptura « genu(re)flection

I am still waiting for one of them to tell me which is the best Sola Scripture Church for me to participate with when I give up Catholicism, which it seems they want me to do.

I gave them a list of over 100 of them in Sothern Maryland alone.
If I went to each one individually it would take over two years on my own.

BTW great link

[Radiant1]

Well now, this is a man after my own heart, and an intellectually honest one at that.

Sola Scriptura, of course, sounds like a doctrine that is so obviously true that to question it could only indicate a doubt in the infallible divine inspiration of Scripture. However, I assure you that the doubts I began to consider that finally led me to shed my belief in Sola Scriptura were only because of my firm conviction in the absolute infallible divine inspiration of Holy Scripture. I must also say that my beliefs that must replace Sola Scriptura are still being worked out in my mind and heart. I simply do not yet know precisely how I will articulate the alternative at this time. This is the collection of thoughts that led me to consider Sola Scriptura as itself a man-made doctrine that is internally inconsistent and ultimately leads to an ironic conclusion characterized by complete uncertainty.

As I said previously, one doesn't have to accept the Apostolic Church's Sacred Tradition as an alternative, but one does need to find something that actually works.

[Bird Dog (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Radiant1

Well now, this is a man after my own heart, and an intellectually honest one at that. :

.

Thank you


Oh, it wasn't about me was it?

[Radiant1]

Originally Posted by Bird Dog

Thank you


Oh, it wasn't about me was it?

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by onel0126

Yep, I started a new one. The following blog entry is long but I found it interesting....

Second Thoughts on Sola Scriptura « genu(re)flection

The author of the article expresses his opinion about the Holy Bible (Sola Scriptura) but does not address the question about the "Jesus" that he believes.

1.) Roman Catholicism teaches a different "Jesus" and "Mary" than the Holy Bible;

2.) Mormonism teaches a different "Jesus" than the Holy Bible;

3.) Jehovah's Witnesses teach a different "Jesus" than the Holy Bible;

4.) Islam teaches a different "Jesus" than the Holy Bible;

5.) Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church teaches a different "Jesus" than the Holy Bible;

6.) Extra-Biblical denominations teach a different "Jesus" than the Holy Bible when they change the identity of the first-century accounts of Yeshua HaMashiach, (Jesus Christ, the Jewish Messiah) and change the Scripture's teaching on Salvation through repentance and faith in Christ alone.

There Is Only One Truth.

[onel0126]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

The author of the article expresses his opinion about the Holy Bible (Sola Scriptura) but does not address the question about the "Jesus" that he believes.]

Speaking of what Jesus believed.....Jesus and Paul Accepted Non-Biblical Oral and Written Traditions, no? For example, the Gospels and other NT scripture refer to events that are not in the Old Testament but are apart of oral rabbinic tradition.

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by onel0126

Speaking of what Jesus believed.....Jesus and Paul Accepted Non-Biblical Oral and Written Traditions, no? For example, the Gospels and other NT scripture refer to events that are not in the Old Testament but are apart of oral rabbinic tradition.

Whenever Jesus made reference to Oral and Written Traditions it was to show that such were traditions and teachings of doctrines of men or misunderstood as to the intent of a law. For example:

Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. (Matthew 5:27-28)

and;

Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. (Matthew 5:38-39)

and other examples.

[onel0126]

Originally Posted by Starman3000m

Whenever Jesus made reference to Oral and Written Traditions it was to show that such were traditions and teachings of doctrines of men or misunderstood as to the intent of a law. For example:



and other examples.

The reference to "He shall be called a Nazarene" cannot be found in the Old Testament, yet it was "spoken by the prophets" (Matt. 2:23). Therefore, this prophecy, which is considered to be "God’s word," was passed down orally rather than through Scripture.

In Matthew 23:2–3, Jesus teaches that the scribes and Pharisees have a legitimate, binding authority based "on Moses’ seat," but this phrase or idea cannot be found anywhere in the Old Testament. It is found in the (originally oral) Mishnah, which teaches a sort of "teaching succession" from Moses on down.

In 1 Corinthians 10:4, Paul refers to a rock that "followed" the Jews through the Sinai wilderness. The Old Testament says nothing about such miraculous movement. But rabbinic tradition does.

"As Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses" (2 Tim. 3:8). These two men cannot be found in the related Old Testament passage (Ex. 7:8ff.) or anywhere else in the Old Testament......and other examples.

[Starman3000m]

Originally Posted by onel0126

The reference to "He shall be called a Nazarene" cannot be found in the Old Testament, yet it was "spoken by the prophets" (Matt. 2:23). Therefore, this prophecy, which is considered to be "God’s word," was passed down orally rather than through Scripture.

In Matthew 23:2–3, Jesus teaches that the scribes and Pharisees have a legitimate, binding authority based "on Moses’ seat," but this phrase or idea cannot be found anywhere in the Old Testament. It is found in the (originally oral) Mishnah, which teaches a sort of "teaching succession" from Moses on down.

In 1 Corinthians 10:4, Paul refers to a rock that "followed" the Jews through the Sinai wilderness. The Old Testament says nothing about such miraculous movement. But rabbinic tradition does.

"As Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses" (2 Tim. 3:8). These two men cannot be found in the related Old Testament passage (Ex. 7:8ff.) or anywhere else in the Old Testament......and other examples.

C'mon, onel. Can't you see that what you have posted is from Sola Scriptura?

Your example/intent doesn't justify the validity of additional/extra-Biblical teachings that have come along and been conjured up by pseudo-Christian denominations after the Advent of Christ and His teachings and the teachings of His Disciples that are found in The Holy Bible.

Remember that Christ and Paul also warned that various teachings would come later and teach a different Jesus and a different gospel than what had been revealed through the Revelation and Messianic fulfilment of Jesus.

Any doctrine that teaches a different Messiah/Jesus than what has been established within the pages of the Holy Bible is teaching people to follow a false doctrine and false Jesus.

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. (Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22)

But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
(2 Corinthians 11:3-4)

and;

I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. (Galatians 1:6-7)

The fact remains:
The RCC, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Muslims, Seventh Day Adventists, Moonies, and all other extra-Biblical denominations that do not teach the Jesus of the Holy Bible (Sola Scriptura) are teaching another gospel, another Jesus and in the case of the RCC another Mary!

There Is Only One True Jesus and There Is Only One Truth.