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Old 05-17-2006, 09:20 AM   #81
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I'm soooo confused. I thought it was ok according to the bible - since it says "you shall not murder" not- "you shall not kill" And isn't a crusade simply a holy war?
Yes. They were "holy" wars. Were they right or wrong, divinely directed or directed by man? I would look at history for the answer and say they were not divinely directed since, as Bustin observed, all but one failed. When God is on your side, you don't fail.
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Old 05-17-2006, 09:22 AM   #82
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I didn't realize this was in dispute. Isn't it a given?
Well, you forgot your sarcasm button.
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Old 05-17-2006, 09:26 AM   #83
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When God is on your side, you don't fail.
What if there is a lesson in failing and that's what god wants you to do?
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Old 05-17-2006, 09:29 AM   #84
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What if there is a lesson in failing and that's what god wants you to do?
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Old 05-17-2006, 09:31 AM   #85
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Yes. They were "holy" wars. Were they right or wrong, divinely directed or directed by man? I would look at history for the answer and say they were not divinely directed since, as Bustin observed, all but one failed. When God is on your side, you don't fail.

so basically, thou shall not "murder"/ "kill" (depending on your hebrew translations) - unless God says it's okay?

Or unless : an engaged women is seduced by a man other than her future husband, women who practice black magic, some women who are raped in urban areas, children who cursed their parents, some non-virgin brides, Jews who collect firewood on Saturday to keep their families from freezing....etc...

right?
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Old 05-17-2006, 09:38 AM   #86
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so basically, thou shall not "murder"/ "kill" (depending on your hebrew translations) - unless God says it's okay?

Or unless : an engaged women is seduced by a man other than her future husband, women who practice black magic, some women who are raped in urban areas, children who cursed their parents, some non-virgin brides, Jews who collect firewood on Saturday to keep their families from freezing....etc...

right?
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Old 05-17-2006, 09:39 AM   #87
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What if there is a lesson in failing and that's what god wants you to do?
I've been given your title of nastiest on the board. How about that?
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You don't have an answer? Thanks for explaining that to me I feel like I learned something.
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Old 05-17-2006, 09:40 AM   #89
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I've been given your title of nastiest on the board. How about that?

I don't know what bug crawled up your ass, but you can bite mine. How 'bout that?
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Old 05-17-2006, 09:42 AM   #90
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You don't have an answer? Thanks for explaining that to me I feel like I learned something.
It is obvious you don't want anything explaind, so I am not going to waste your time or mine.
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