The New $5 Bill

[LexiGirl75 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by RareBreed

Sorry, don't know how to convert it to mpg. I was just pointing out that I have to fill up every 3rd day. I don't have a 50 gallon tank, I know for sure. It's a 2004 Camry.

I'm pretty much that way, My tank is 14.5g and if I fill up on Monday morning then I will need gas sometime on Wednesday be it I have a quarter left and choose to fill up near home or wing it and fill up midway back home wherever point the gas light comes on. I drive 132m each day.

[aps45819 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by RareBreed

I travel almost 150 per day to and from work.

Originally Posted by LexiGirl75

I I drive 132m each day.

It's 4.4 miles from my house to the office

You ladies are spending at least 4 hours a day in your car.
That's about 1000 hours a year. That's time on the job you're not being paid for. Take your hourly wage and multiply that by 1000. Is the difference in your pay between your current job and something closer worth it?
At my current salary, I'd need close to a $40k a year raise to consider driving to DC every day (i.e. adding 1000 hours a year to my job) and that's not counting gas

[RareBreed]

Originally Posted by aps45819

It's 4.4 miles from my house to the office

You ladies are spending at least 4 hours a day in your car.
That's about 1000 hours a year. That's time on the job you're not being paid for. Take your hourly wage and multiply that by 1000. Is the difference in your pay between your current job and something closer worth it?
At my current salary, I'd need close to a $40k a year raise to consider driving to DC every day (i.e. adding 1000 hours a year to my job) and that's not counting gas

When I got my job, I lived 15 minutes away. I moved to SOMD 11 years ago and looked for a similar job. Pay was horrible so I kept my job up in VA. Is it worth it? Definately. I go to work in the middle of the night and am home well before the school bus drops my oldest off from school. My family doesn't have to worry about how we're going to pay the bills, where money will come from to get whole new wardrobes each year as my kids out-grew the ones they wore last year. We take great vacations where we rent a house instead of staying in a hotel. We have our kids college paid off already and the youngest isn't even in school yet. My kids got socialized because they went to a sitters where they learned to not be dependent on me and to get along with others. I have 5 hours to play with my kids each day instead of the maybe 2 if I worked a "normal" job near home.

Money isn't everything but it's one less thing me and my family have to worry about. Peace of mind and zero traffic during my commute because of the hours I work. Yep, definately worth it. Plus I can quit my job up here in just 7 years because I will have my 20yrs in and will qualify for my Pension and could get a lower paying and closer job near home but I won't. I will stay here until hubby and I retire in our old (atleast he will be) age.

[RareBreed]

Originally Posted by LexiGirl75

I'm pretty much that way, My tank is 14.5g and if I fill up on Monday morning then I will need gas sometime on Wednesday be it I have a quarter left and choose to fill up near home or wing it and fill up midway back home wherever point the gas light comes on. I drive 132m each day.

I drive about the same. Takes 1hr 10mins between home and work. I love to see Dunkirk because that's my half-way point.

[LexiGirl75 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by aps45819

Is the difference in your pay between your current job and something closer worth it?

Not really.

Originally Posted by RareBreed

When I got my job, I lived 15 minutes away. I moved to SOMD 11 years ago and looked for a similar job. Pay was horrible so I kept my job up in VA. Is it worth it? Definately. I go to work in the middle of the night and am home well before the school bus drops my oldest off from school. My family doesn't have to worry about how we're going to pay the bills, where money will come from to get whole new wardrobes each year as my kids out-grew the ones they wore last year. We take great vacations where we rent a house instead of staying in a hotel. We have our kids college paid off already and the youngest isn't even in school yet. My kids got socialized because they went to a sitters where they learned to not be dependent on me and to get along with others. I have 5 hours to play with my kids each day instead of the maybe 2 if I worked a "normal" job near home.

Money isn't everything but it's one less thing me and my family have to worry about. Peace of mind and zero traffic during my commute because of the hours I work. Yep, definately worth it. Plus I can quit my job up here in just 7 years because I will have my 20yrs in and will qualify for my Pension and could get a lower paying and closer job near home but I won't. I will stay here until hubby and I retire in our old (atleast he will be) age.

Ok Aps, in comparison. HELL NO!!!




My story...

When I moved here in Oct 2004 I was working in Alexandria, the boys were going to school in DC. We did this for 9mos except by month 8 I started working in PG. Gas was about $1.76 and the drive up Rt 4 beats Rt 5 to DC to Wilson Bridge any day. Now, gas is twice that and because I went all ghettoi fabulous my bills are more than what they were. So it definitely is not worth it anymore. It's my goal to work closer to home before the new school year begins.

Otherwise, I'll be forced to sell some tail alongside Paso.

[RareBreed]

Originally Posted by LexiGirl75

Not really.




Ok Aps, in comparison. HELL NO!!!




My story...

When I moved here in Oct 2004 I was working in Alexandria, the boys were going to school in DC. We did this for 9mos except by month 8 I started working in PG. Gas was about $1.76 and the drive up Rt 4 beats Rt 5 to DC to Wilson Bridge any day. Now, gas is twice that and because I went all ghettoi fabulous my bills are more than what they were. So it definitely is not worth it anymore. It's my goal to work closer to home before the new school year begins.

Otherwise, I'll be forced to sell some tail alongside Paso.

For me, the difference in pay would be alot- say about $30,000 less to do a similar job.

[Dymphna]

Originally Posted by aps45819

It's 4.4 miles from my house to the office

You ladies are spending at least 4 hours a day in your car.
That's about 1000 hours a year. That's time on the job you're not being paid for. Take your hourly wage and multiply that by 1000. Is the difference in your pay between your current job and something closer worth it?
At my current salary, I'd need close to a $40k a year raise to consider driving to DC every day (i.e. adding 1000 hours a year to my job) and that's not counting gas

Yes, but working 1000 for free, so that you can be paid for the other 2000 pays the bills. If your hourly rate is $20, your argument is that a person would be better off working for $20,000 close to home as opposed to $40,000 with a 4 hour per day commute.

Another way of calculating it is since you work (including commute) for 3000 hours per year and get pay $40,000, you are in fact only making $15/hour even though on paper it says $20. Using those figures, a job that is close to home for $30,000 is equivalent to a $40K job up the road.

150 miles a day uses about 7.5 gallons of gas in your average vehicle. I'll round that up and call it $30/day....let's say $7500/year. At that rate you'd need an oil change per month, instead of every three months, so 8 extras, about about $20 each = $160

So, $7660 per year in expenses. Not including wear and tear on the vehicle. So, it may very well be worth it to take a $30K job near home if you are working for $40K up the road....

But if you are working for $80K up the road, ($40/hr on paper, $30/hr after figuring the commute) you are still only paying $7660 to do that, so it's better than a $60K ($30/hr) job down here.

[LexiGirl75 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Dymphna

Yes, but working 1000 for free, so that you can be paid for the other 2000 pays the bills. If your hourly rate is $20, your argument is that a person would be better off working for $20,000 close to home as opposed to $40,000 with a 4 hour per day commute.

Another way of calculating it is since you work (including commute) for 3000 hours per year and get pay $40,000, you are in fact only making $15/hour even though on paper it says $20. Using those figures, a job that is close to home for $30,000 is equivalent to a $40K job up the road.

150 miles a day uses about 7.5 gallons of gas in your average vehicle. I'll round that up and call it $30/day....let's say $7500/year. At that rate you'd need an oil change per month, instead of every three months, so 8 extras, about about $20 each = $160

So, $7660 per year in expenses. Not including wear and tear on the vehicle. So, it may very well be worth it to take a $30K job near home if you are working for $40K up the road....

But if you are working for $80K up the road, ($40/hr on paper, $30/hr after figuring the commute) you are still only paying $7660 to do that, so it's better than a $60K ($30/hr) job down here.

I like being in your class.

I was aware of the gas (still less than $4K a year) and oil changes but to look at it broken down like that against the yearly salary just flakes it all.

At work people tell me to move closer but to weigh it, i would rather live and work here than in the hoods (what I could afford) of PG or DC.

[RareBreed]

Originally Posted by Dymphna

Yes, but working 1000 for free, so that you can be paid for the other 2000 pays the bills. If your hourly rate is $20, your argument is that a person would be better off working for $20,000 close to home as opposed to $40,000 with a 4 hour per day commute.

Another way of calculating it is since you work (including commute) for 3000 hours per year and get pay $40,000, you are in fact only making $15/hour even though on paper it says $20. Using those figures, a job that is close to home for $30,000 is equivalent to a $40K job up the road.

150 miles a day uses about 7.5 gallons of gas in your average vehicle. I'll round that up and call it $30/day....let's say $7500/year. At that rate you'd need an oil change per month, instead of every three months, so 8 extras, about about $20 each = $160

So, $7660 per year in expenses. Not including wear and tear on the vehicle. So, it may very well be worth it to take a $30K job near home if you are working for $40K up the road....

But if you are working for $80K up the road, ($40/hr on paper, $30/hr after figuring the commute) you are still only paying $7660 to do that, so it's better than a $60K ($30/hr) job down here.

You said it much better than me. I'd rather spend the extra time on the road and get paid more so that my family can live relatively debt free than to work close to home for less money and wonder if we're just one paycheck (or one major expense) away from losing what we have. What we've got isn't alot/extravagant but it's paid for and we owe nobody nothing except our mortgage which will be paid off in about 7 yrs.