Redskins to get some Luck?

[G1G4]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

No one has traded away so much for one guy and done well. All sorts of teams have traded away one guy or one pick and cleaned up and built long term solid teams.

The idea is that we can, magically, get solid linemen and skill people with very few draft picks to use or trade when we could not do that when we had picks to use or trade and that magic is a rookie quarterback.

No? Don't remember '04?

I'll help...

04: New York Giants traded 2004 1st (which was the #4...), 2005 1st, 2004 3rd and 2005 5th. So, four picks for the #1.

12: Redskins trade 2012 1st (which is the #6), 2013 & 2014 1st, plus the second round pick for this year.

I don't really think they gave up too much if they feel he's going to be a franchise quarterback for years to come. What other quarterback was available that you felt would be competitive for ten years? Manning? Weeden? Tannehill? Not even close. Even if Luck falls to them, is that really a bad compensatory pick for trading what they did? They traded what they did because it was a win-win no matter what. It's like spending $10 on a $600 million mega-millions ticket and winning. Sure, you spent $10, but in the long run your investment increases by millions. It's a chance. Every first round pick in the draft is just that, a chance. The notion that this is "the same old Redskins" is ridiculous. The "same old Redskins" would have traded for Peyton Manning before he was released for more than what they got the #2 for, plus picked up his roster bonus and the majority of his salary, and probably sign him to a $110 million extension. If they want to acquire more draft picks, they can certainly trade down with some of their picks, or trade their heavy WR corps. Santana Moss might be on the downslide, but trust me, there's a team somewhere in need of either a slot receiver or a receiver to take pressure off of a #2 or #3.

I'm a Colts fan, and Irsay is certainly blowing smoke up everyone's ass when he says he hasn't decided on a pick. He and Pagano both know Luck is the pick they want. Irsay had a big PR no-no when he let Manning go, and he has no choice but to draft Luck, since he has played him up as the next best thing to Peyton.

Oh yeah, that draft pick I was talking about in 04? Eli Manning. Ask the Giants fans if they feel they gave up "too much" for a franchise quarterback.

[BuddyLee]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

Anyone with a plausible football mind knows that 'youth mistakes' of getting caught in a business where the average career is 4 years and the rules, and how to get around them, from dope to PED's, knows both these guys are lost causes. That they are our 'greatest' assets only makes it that much worse. A joint away from a year? Come on. You don't build around that. You just don't. They are pot heads and that's not unusual in pro sports. Getting caught for it in the NFL...

...that's dumb.

Every single person on that team now knows you get a free pass for a major #### up. These guys are not leaders yet that's their role. They're not even adults.

Welcome to today's NFL...much like the NBA.

[BuddyLee]

Originally Posted by Larry Gude

EVERYONE is competitive. The 0-16 lions of a few years ago were competitive coming close a bunch of games. Look at them now. They cleaned house, stocked up on picks, got their QB without giving away the farm and they are solid across the board and all those young guys are LIONS, not hired hands.

You mentioned the ghost of Vinny and that's what I thought we'd gotten away from the last two years; building picks, no huge, splashy deals. I felt the air come out of the ball with the RGIII trade. It's putting all the eggs in one basket all over again and ruining the balance of the team. You gotta love getting a guy like that but, at that price?

Your view is you sell the farm for that. Mine is you have no farm when you sell the farm.

The Lions were the oldest team in the NFL last year.

2011 NFL age ranks: Calling all graybeards - NFC West Blog - ESPN

They also just had several arrests recently.

There is no price high enough when it comes down to winning football games.

[Larry Gude (Premo)]

Originally Posted by BuddyLee

The Lions were the oldest team in the NFL last year.

2011 NFL age ranks: Calling all graybeards - NFC West Blog - ESPN

They also just had several arrests recently.

There is no price high enough when it comes down to winning football games.

Really? Hmm...so much for my plausibility!

[BuddyLee]

"Twas the Night Before Griffmas"

[jazz lady (Premo)]

Originally Posted by BuddyLee

"Twas the Night Before Griffmas"

And it didn't take long for them to try to cash in on it:

.....2012 NFL Draft at RedskinsTeamStore.com

[BuddyLee]

Originally Posted by jazz lady

And it didn't take long for them to try to cash in on it:

.....2012 NFL Draft at RedskinsTeamStore.com

Sold!