Motor building...

[GURPS (Premo)]

I like Stacy - the show was much better before MTV cut him for those 2 dweebs


I loved me some Trucks and HP TV ..... sadly that is gone now

[Gilligan (Premo)]

Engine all assembled..finishing up the mounting of the second alternator where the AC compressor was originally.

On board welder setup...of course.

[Sparx]

And looking for a small block Ford motor to power it.

[Gilligan (Premo)]

A favorite of mine too. I've been offered a couple that were really rough...but the project plate is a mite too full right now.

I'm just now puttting the final touches on an older 302 build...one that is strictly a high-performance motor, to go in a 16' Donzi. I have others lying around...what direction were you planning to go with the engine for the F1?

[GURPS (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Sparx

And looking for a small block Ford motor to power it.

Pre 55 ........ nice

[if you don't know in 1955 Ford went to the 'dogleg' windshield]

a 302 / 351 would be cheaper .... personally I like the Classic FE Engines

Y Blocks - 292, 312 ...

332. 352. 390 ...

[Sparx]

Originally Posted by Gilligan

A favorite of mine too. I've been offered a couple that were really rough...but the project plate is a mite too full right now.

I'm just now puttting the final touches on an older 302 build...one that is strictly a high-performance motor, to go in a 16' Donzi. I have others lying around...what direction were you planning to go with the engine for the F1?

The truck is already missing the original engine. It has a 351 Cleveland 2V in it now coupled with a C-4 auto. Problem is I don't know if the engine is any good. I don't want to race it but don't want to be embarased on the street either. Does the 351 C 2V have any desirable traits for modifying if it is indeed a good engine? Will the C-4 hold up to street abuse? I'd like to have no less than 400hp when I'm done. I'm pushing it into the garage this spring to start tearing it down to the frame.

[Sparx]

It's actually a 1954 F-100.

[Gilligan (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Sparx

Does the 351 C 2V have any desirable traits for modifying if it is indeed a good engine? Will the C-4 hold up to street abuse? I'd like to have no less than 400hp when I'm done. I'm pushing it into the garage this spring to start tearing it down to the frame.

I'll say! The Cleveland is head and shoulders superior to anything in the wheezer family (289/302/351W) when it comes to building a performance engine, IMO. I build more Clevelands than anything else; have a 408C in the works right now, matter of fact. The canted-valve large-port Cleveland heads bear little/no resemblance to the ancient Windsor head configuration. The valves alone tell the story; the C 2V heads have 2.05" intakes and 1.64" exhausts...both bigger than what you can get in the biggest of the aftermarket windsor heads from the likes of AFR and similar.

The C-4 can be made to withstand a lot but you would be far better off with a C-6. The C-6 with an R6 servo upgrade and the HD (truck or Lincoln) 5-disk clutch will withstand well over 500 ft-lbs of torque..

[Sparx]

Well that's good news. I thought since it was the 2V and not the 4V it might not be as ready for hp increases. I'll need to see if this is a good engine, (I'm told it may have frozen and cracked a few years ago.) If it's good, what would it take (cost) to make a reliable 400 hp engine out of it? I know that can depend on a lot of things but is there a ballpark figure you can offer?

[Gilligan (Premo)]

Originally Posted by Sparx

Well that's good news. I thought since it was the 2V and not the 4V it might not be as ready for hp increases. I'll need to see if this is a good engine, (I'm told it may have frozen and cracked a few years ago.) If it's good, what would it take (cost) to make a reliable 400 hp engine out of it? I know that can depend on a lot of things but is there a ballpark figure you can offer?

Ballpark estimates are always tough. Without know anything about it but assuming a complete array of machine-shop services would be required..I would figure between 3000 and 4000 for a ready-to-crank engine suitably dressed up and putting out roughly 400 HP at something around 5800-6000 RPM.

That said, for something as heavy as that pickup, I'd be focused more on a high torque output, peaking around 4000 or even less. Might end up with "only" 330-350 HP but hat would move that beast better than a high HP engine that scrificed low-end torque to get bigger HP numbers. You butt-dyno would like the torquey engine better.

I've managed to get there for less...but had a good foundation to work with.