Talladega Snore Fest

[JoeMac]

Originally Posted by aps45819

So ... keep V8s but choke them, stop development of technology that could filter down and improve your daily driver, don't race anything close to what a consumer can buy but go ahead and call it "stock car" racing.
Sounds like a plan

Would it make you feel better to call it V8 stock decal racing? There are already sanctioning bodies that have commuter car classes, I don't think we need another one. I feel like the technology in daily drivers has already surpassed nascar's rule book. Look at power levels compared to fuel efficiency. I don't care what you call it, but I don't know why people can't realize that there is nothing stock about a stock car and there hasn't been for a long time. I watch nascar because I like the competition and the personalities. Nascar picked a set of rules and that's what the competitors have to abide by. Obviously they are doing something right as the sport has grown leaps and bounds.

[nachomama]

I thought I heard the other day that Matt Kenseth had the fastest speed Sunday of 199 mph.

That ain't too far off what Bill Elliott did (212) which started the whole restrictor plate thing to start with.

[Baja28]

Originally Posted by nachomama

I thought I heard the other day that Matt Kenseth had the fastest speed Sunday of 199 mph.

That ain't too far off what Bill Elliott did (212) which started the whole restrictor plate thing to start with.

That's average lap speeds. They are exceeding 206-207 on the straight aways now.

[limblips]

Originally Posted by JoeMac

Would it make you feel better to call it V8 stock decal racing? There are already sanctioning bodies that have commuter car classes, I don't think we need another one. I feel like the technology in daily drivers has already surpassed nascar's rule book. Look at power levels compared to fuel efficiency. I don't care what you call it, but I don't know why people can't realize that there is nothing stock about a stock car and there hasn't been for a long time. I watch nascar because I like the competition and the personalities. Nascar picked a set of rules and that's what the competitors have to abide by. Obviously they are doing something right as the sport has grown leaps and bounds.

What competition? They raced single file in their cookie cutter cars for over half the race and the rest they were so bunched up that the big one happened 2X. I want to see racing not follow the leader. Tony S and Ryan N both said it was boring and an embarrassment for NASCAR.

[CrashTest]

Originally Posted by limblips

What competition? They raced single file in their cookie cutter cars for over half the race and the rest they were so bunched up that the big one happened 2X. I want to see racing not follow the leader. Tony S and Ryan N both said it was boring and an embarrassment for NASCAR.

Lets see more fist fights in the pits.

[aps45819 (Premo)]

Originally Posted by JoeMac

Would it make you feel better to call it V8 stock decal racing? There are already sanctioning bodies that have commuter car classes, I don't think we need another one.
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No.

Why do you consider NASCAR "stock car" racing?
Is it because the National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing has the words "Stock Car" in the name?

[JoeMac]

Originally Posted by limblips

What competition? They raced single file in their cookie cutter cars for over half the race and the rest they were so bunched up that the big one happened 2X. I want to see racing not follow the leader. Tony S and Ryan N both said it was boring and an embarrassment for NASCAR.

I was talking about the competition in general. I have never seen as many cars on the lead lap as is customary today. I also said in an earlier post that Sunday's race was an abomination, we are in agreement of that. In response to the comment about cookie cutter cars, where does the innovation stop? If they don't put limits in the rules couldn't that give an unfair advantage? Isn't it supposed to be about the driver and the team competing on the same level as everyone else? -Honest question.

Originally Posted by aps45819

No.

Why do you consider NASCAR "stock car" racing?
Is it because the National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing has the words "Stock Car" in the name?

Because that is what a stock car is. Like I said before, it has been 50 years since cars in stock form have been raced. A stock car is a purpose built race car generally built to race on asphalt ovals and road courses.

Another way to look at it is that a stock car is not built to the point of an F1 or indy car.