Where the anti smoke zealotry really...

*Larry Gude* ^(Premo) · 11-19-2007, 09:14 AM

...comes from; Smokers.

Time to stand and be counted, smokers. Would you prefer that you did not smoke, but make one excuse after another to not quit? I'm trying to boil this all down, cut through all the issues, all the pro's and con's, the laws, the cost, the pesonal rights, and get down to bedrock, yes or no on smoking if you could snap your fingers. That means no urge, no missing of the habit, no more of the habitual ritual, nothing, just straightforward yes or no;

My point, my theory, is that this is not an issue people are going to march on, not going to man the barricades. Secretly or not, most smokers are glad they are slowly being forced to quit.

PJumper · 11-19-2007, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Larry Gude

...comes from; Smokers.

Time to stand and be counted, smokers. Would you prefer that you did not smoke, but make one excuse after another to not quit? I'm trying to boil this all down, cut through all the issues, all the pro's and con's, the laws, the cost, the pesonal rights, and get down to bedrock, yes or no on smoking if you could snap your fingers. That means no urge, no missing of the habit, no more of the habitual ritual, nothing, just straightforward yes or no;

My point, my theory, is that this is not an issue people are going to march on, not going to man the barricades. Secretly or not, most smokers are glad they are slowly being forced to quit.

I don't know about you guys but I enjoyed smoking. I quit because I don't want my kids inhaling that stuff. Have no regrets, I can still light one with friends on certain occasions but never really crave for it except for the two first weeks of quitting.

*Larry Gude* ^(Premo) · 11-19-2007, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PJumper

I don't know about you guys but I enjoyed smoking. I quit because I don't want my kids inhaling that stuff. Have no regrets, I can still light one with friends on certain occasions but never really crave for it except for the two first weeks of quitting.

...because I stopped enjoying it. I remember the pleasures readily but the trade off between how it made me feel was no longer worth it.

I'm all for bars and restaurants allowing smoking as they see fit. I get totally bent when they won't allow cigars.

Point is that smokers themselves, besides you and I and one other I know for sure, want to quit but keep finding reasons not to.

My poll is scientific PROOF of my theory.

Toxick · 11-19-2007, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Larry Gude

...comes from; Smokers.

You know - I have noticed that the most aggresively vocal anti-smoking fascists are ex-smokers.

Ken King · 11-19-2007, 10:58 AM

I don't want to quit, I enjoy the relaxing effect it has upon me and those around me appreciate the fact that I haven't quit. I tried to quit before for reasons not my own and ended up being asked to start again.

MMDad · 11-19-2007, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Toxick

You know - I have noticed that the most aggresively vocal anti-smoking fascists are ex-smokers.

I went through that for the first few years after I quit. I believe it is because seeing or smelling smokers reminds us of our own addiction to nicotine and the weakness that made it difficult to stop. It also reminds us of the ugliness like stained fingers and teeth and the smell.

Now I can just ignore smoking. If I don't want to smell it, I don't go to places that allow it. Easy.

vraiblonde · 11-19-2007, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Larry Gude

Secretly or not, most smokers are glad they are slowly being forced to quit.

Yeah, I'm sure that's it - we secretly support having our rights taken away because it's for our own good.

jenbengen · 11-19-2007, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Toxick

You know - I have noticed that the most aggresively vocal anti-smoking fascists are ex-smokers.

My cousin was a hard core smoker for years. Had a kid, quit, and now she acts like she never was one and gets all angry at smokers. I don't get it.

jenbengen · 11-19-2007, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by vraiblonde

Yeah, I'm sure that's it - we secretly support having our rights taken away because it's for our own good.

It is pretty crazy to think people are trying to MAKE you not smoke. Nobody seems to care that obesity kills way more people.

*Larry Gude* ^(Premo) · 11-19-2007, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by vraiblonde

Yeah, I'm sure that's it - we secretly support having our rights taken away because it's for our own good.

...take it up with your fellow filter breathers. Polls don't lie. Ever.

View Poll Results: Smokers, do you wish you did not smoke cigarettes?
Yes	32	60.38%
No	21	39.62%
Voters: 53. You may not vote on this poll

11-19-2007, 09:14 AM	#1
Larry Gude ^(Premo) Strung Out Member Since: Feb 2001 Posts: 63,401	Where the anti smoke zealotry really... ...comes from; Smokers. Time to stand and be counted, smokers. Would you prefer that you did not smoke, but make one excuse after another to not quit? I'm trying to boil this all down, cut through all the issues, all the pro's and con's, the laws, the cost, the pesonal rights, and get down to bedrock, yes or no on smoking if you could snap your fingers. That means no urge, no missing of the habit, no more of the habitual ritual, nothing, just straightforward yes or no; My point, my theory, is that this is not an issue people are going to march on, not going to man the barricades. Secretly or not, most smokers are glad they are slowly being forced to quit. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Add post to Facebook __________________ "...When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law. These two evils are of equal consequence, and it would be difficult for a person to choose between them." Frédéric Bastiat
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11-19-2007, 10:58 AM	#5
Ken King Oldtimer Member Since: Feb 2001 Location: Up the hill and down the holler Posts: 12,628	I don't want to quit, I enjoy the relaxing effect it has upon me and those around me appreciate the fact that I haven't quit. I tried to quit before for reasons not my own and ended up being asked to start again. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter Add post to Facebook __________________ Taking it one date at a time.
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