NAACP Suing : Saying Banks Targeted Blacks

Velocity26

New Member
Yea because the banks wanted blacks to default and put themselves out of business. :duh:

Perfect example of why blacks have no credibility and appear stupid.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
NAACP suits claim African Americans were targeted for subprime mortgages - Los Angeles Times

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I am a victim, always the victim.

When reached for comment, Mortgage Meltdown Czar Barney Frank had this to say "Look, when the plansh ish to meltsh down the shystem, you need lots of poor people who don't otherwishe qwualify and these people tend to be around the big sheties and, well, you melt down the economies wish the cultural groupsh you have, not neshesharily the onesh you wish you had...there ish noshing nefariosh about thish, at all. Our goal wash to not discriminate, at all. We want the economy to shuck for everyone eqwuallwee..."
 

Baja28

Obama destroyed America
When reached for comment, Mortgage Meltdown Czar Barney Frank had this to say "Look, when the plansh ish to meltsh down the shystem, you need lots of poor people who don't otherwishe qwualify and these people tend to be around the big sheties and, well, you melt down the economies wish the cultural groupsh you have, not neshesharily the onesh you wish you had...there ish noshing nefariosh about thish, at all. Our goal wash to not discriminate, at all. We want the economy to shuck for everyone eqwuallwee..."
:killingme
 

AK-74me

"Typical White Person"
Those that represent a higher risk category always have to pay a higher interest. This is why the street sharks charge a vig. Too bad Wells Fargo took the risk in the first place.

Right can you imagine the outrage if they were steered clear of these loans? Not in hindsight of course but if things went differently???

I am sure all these slick lenders were bad white men too, I am sure there are no blacks in these jobs at all that were trying to make money.
 

wch

New Member
Well dammit if they were not given the loans then the NAACP would sue over that, duh ! They signed there name to the agreement, just like a lot of white people did who also could not afford the payments, Heck I bought my house at the same time they did and I had to go to a 2 hr class to make sure I understood the concept of what I was doing.
 

bcp

In My Opinion
But wait, didn't Jimm Carter start up the community inititive to force banks into the poor communities and spend their money in those areas to build?
and, didn't Bill Clinton force banks to make more loans to the minorities in those neighborhoods regardless of history?
then, when banks tried to limit loans based on ability to repay, didn't some other democrat actually sue the banks to force them to make those subprime loans to the minorities?

lets see if I can find something,, oh, here it is.. and look who's name is listed on there as one of the suing lawyers.

Case Name
Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Fed. Sav. Bank Fair Housing/Lending/Insurance
Docket / Court 94 C 4094 ( N.D. Ill. ) FH-IL-0011
State/Territory Illinois
Case Summary
Plaintiffs filed their class action lawsuit on July 6, 1994, alleging that Citibank had engaged in redlining practices in the Chicago metropolitan area in violation of the Equal Credit Opportunity Act (ECOA), 15 U.S.C. 1691; the Fair Housing Act, 42 U.S.C. 3601-3619; the Thirteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution; and 42 U.S.C. 1981, 1982. Plaintiffs alleged that the Defendant-bank rejected loan applications of minority applicants while approving loan applications filed by white applicants with similar financial characteristics and credit histories. Plaintiffs sought injunctiverelief, actual damages, and punitive damages.
U.S. District Court Judge Ruben Castillo certified the Plaintiffs’ suit as a class action on June 30, 1995. Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Fed. Sav. Bank, 162 F.R.D. 322 (N.D. Ill. 1995). Also on June 30, Judge Castillo granted Plaintiffs’ motion to compel discovery of a sample of Defendant-bank’s loan application files. Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Fed. Sav. Bank, 162 F.R.D. 338 (N.D. Ill. 1995).
The parties voluntarily dismissed the case on May 12, 1998, pursuant to a settlement agreement.
Plaintiff’s Lawyers Alexis, Hilary I. (Illinois)
FH-IL-0011-7500 | FH-IL-0011-7501 | FH-IL-0011-9000
Childers, Michael Allen (Illinois)
FH-IL-0011-7500 | FH-IL-0011-7501 | FH-IL-0011-9000
Clayton, Fay (Illinois)
FH-IL-0011-7500 | FH-IL-0011-7501 | FH-IL-0011-9000
Cummings, Jeffrey Irvine (Illinois)
FH-IL-0011-7500 | FH-IL-0011-7501 | FH-IL-0011-9000
Love, Sara Norris (Virginia)
FH-IL-0011-9000
Miner, Judson Hirsch (Illinois)
FH-IL-0011-7500 | FH-IL-0011-9000
Obama, Barack H. (Illinois)
FH-IL-0011-7500 | FH-IL-0011-7501 | FH-IL-0011-9000
Wickert, John Henry (Illinois)
FH-IL-0011-9000

seems that it makes sense to me.
you dont get the loan because the bank says that with your current situation, you would not be able to repay the loan.
so you sue.
The bank is then forced to make that "creative" loan to you based on some court decision, you get the loan, you default on the loan,,
so you sue.

thought it was Vrai that said it but now Im not sure, but whoever said it, is right, it really makes the minorities look bad when they constantly play this card. Sad part is that there are so many black out there that can support their loan, yet they will suffer because like it or not, they are part of the group as a whole.

loans and insurance have one thing in common, Risk is determined by more factors than the individual alone.
 
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AK-74me

"Typical White Person"
But wait, didn't Jimm Carter start up the community inititive to force banks into the poor communities and spend their money in those areas to build?
and, didn't Bill Clinton force banks to make more loans to the minorities in those neighborhoods regardless of history?
then, when banks tried to limit loans based on ability to repay, didn't some other democrat actually sue the banks to force them to make those subprime loans to the minorities?

lets see if I can find something,, oh, here it is.. and look who's name is listed on there as one of the suing lawyers.



seems that it makes sense to me.
you dont get the loan because the bank says that with your current situation, you would not be able to repay the loan.
so you sue.
The bank is then forced to make that "creative" loan to you based on some court decision, you get the loan, you default on the loan,,
so you sue.

thought it was Vrai that said it but now Im not sure, but whoever said it, is right, it really makes the minorities look bad when they constantly play this card. Sad part is that there are so many black out there that can support their loan, yet they will suffer because like it or not, they are part of the group as a whole.

loans and insurance have one thing in common, Risk is determined by more factors than the individual alone.

Jesse Jackson, the NAACP and supporters are the reason racism is still so prevelant, they make a living off the victim mentality and basically tell black people you are too stupid to do anything on your own and need us to represent you, it is just too bad so many fall for it just because it is convenient.
 
R

RadioPatrol

Guest
Right can you imagine the outrage if they were steered clear of these loans? Not in hindsight of course but if things went differently???

I am sure all these slick lenders were bad white men too, I am sure there are no blacks in these jobs at all that were trying to make money.



ACORN and the Like Sued them because they steered clear of these loans in the 80's only to get ####ed over in the 90's bu the Klinton Administration ...
 

ohstate

Member
NY Times from 1999.

Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending - The New York Times

Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending
By STEVEN A. HOLMES
Published: Thursday, September 30, 1999

In a move that could help increase home ownership rates among minorities and low-income consumers, the Fannie Mae Corporation is easing the credit requirements on loans that it will purchase from banks and other lenders.

The action, which will begin as a pilot program involving 24 banks in 15 markets -- including the New York metropolitan region -- will encourage those banks to extend home mortgages to individuals whose credit is generally not good enough to qualify for conventional loans. Fannie Mae officials say they hope to make it a nationwide program by next spring.

Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure from the Clinton Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal growth in profits.

In addition, banks, thrift institutions and mortgage companies have been pressing Fannie Mae to help them make more loans to so-called subprime borrowers. These borrowers whose incomes, credit ratings and savings are not good enough to qualify for conventional loans, can only get loans from finance companies that charge much higher interest rates -- anywhere from three to four percentage points higher than conventional loans.

''Fannie Mae has expanded home ownership for millions of families in the 1990's by reducing down payment requirements,'' said Franklin D. Raines, Fannie Mae's chairman and chief executive officer. ''Yet there remain too many borrowers whose credit is just a notch below what our underwriting has required who have been relegated to paying significantly higher mortgage rates in the so-called subprime market.''

Demographic information on these borrowers is sketchy. But at least one study indicates that 18 percent of the loans in the subprime market went to black borrowers, compared to 5 per cent of loans in the conventional loan market.

In moving, even tentatively, into this new area of lending, Fannie Mae is taking on significantly more risk, which may not pose any difficulties during flush economic times. But the government-subsidized corporation may run into trouble in an economic downturn, prompting a government rescue similar to that of the savings and loan industry in the 1980's.

''From the perspective of many people, including me, this is another thrift industry growing up around us,'' said Peter Wallison a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. ''If they fail, the government will have to step up and bail them out the way it stepped up and bailed out the thrift industry.''

Under Fannie Mae's pilot program, consumers who qualify can secure a mortgage with an interest rate one percentage point above that of a conventional, 30-year fixed rate mortgage of less than $240,000 -- a rate that currently averages about 7.76 per cent. If the borrower makes his or her monthly payments on time for two years, the one percentage point premium is dropped.

Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, does not lend money directly to consumers. Instead, it purchases loans that banks make on what is called the secondary market. By expanding the type of loans that it will buy, Fannie Mae is hoping to spur banks to make more loans to people with less-than-stellar credit ratings.

Fannie Mae officials stress that the new mortgages will be extended to all potential borrowers who can qualify for a mortgage. But they add that the move is intended in part to increase the number of minority and low income home owners who tend to have worse credit ratings than non-Hispanic whites.

Home ownership has, in fact, exploded among minorities during the economic boom of the 1990's. The number of mortgages extended to Hispanic applicants jumped by 87.2 per cent from 1993 to 1998, according to Harvard University's Joint Center for Housing Studies. During that same period the number of African Americans who got mortgages to buy a home increased by 71.9 per cent and the number of Asian Americans by 46.3 per cent.

In contrast, the number of non-Hispanic whites who received loans for homes increased by 31.2 per cent.

Despite these gains, home ownership rates for minorities continue to lag behind non-Hispanic whites, in part because blacks and Hispanics in particular tend to have on average worse credit ratings.

In July, the Department of Housing and Urban Development proposed that by the year 2001, 50 percent of Fannie Mae's and Freddie Mac's portfolio be made up of loans to low and moderate-income borrowers. Last year, 44 percent of the loans Fannie Mae purchased were from these groups.

The change in policy also comes at the same time that HUD is investigating allegations of racial discrimination in the automated underwriting systems used by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to determine the credit-worthiness of credit applicants
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
Those that represent a higher risk category always have to pay a higher interest. This is why the street sharks charge a vig. Too bad Wells Fargo took the risk in the first place.

How is a vig differnt than points?
 

firstroundko

Registered Devil Dog
:killingme

Right, MSM has nothing to do with it, it's about message boards in small towns that keep the NAACP highlighted.

There's nothing funny about being played for a chump, by two groups with differing agendas.

I'll grant you this however: I suppose there is something kind of symbiotic about the whole process.

It's one twisted cycle:

NAACP (needs attention to stay relevant) - issues inflammatory comment and/or takes inflammatory action(s).

The American public (spectators/consumers) - with a proven track record of interest in the bizarre, awkward, and scandalous, we compel the MSM to take note - or it loses out on viewership opportunities.

MSM (CNN, MSNBC, FOX, et.al) - through 24/7 media coverage, it facilitates the relevancy of the NAACP.

And on and on it goes..........
 

AK-74me

"Typical White Person"
There's nothing funny about being played for a chump, by two groups with differing agendas.

I'll grant you this however: I suppose there is something kind of symbiotic about the whole process.

It's one twisted cycle:

NAACP (needs attention to stay relevant) - issues inflammatory comment and/or takes inflammatory action(s).

The American public (spectators/consumers) - with a proven track record of interest in the bizarre, awkward, and scandalous, we compel the MSM to take note - or it loses out on viewership opportunities.

MSM (CNN, MSNBC, FOX, et.al) - through 24/7 media coverage, it facilitates the relevancy of the NAACP.

And on and on it goes..........


Looks like you gotta alot work to do here bud, better get busy setting everyone straight here.

Hey, I got an idea how about we just bury the letters "NAACP", worked for the "N word"? We'll just bury it and forget about them.
 

firstroundko

Registered Devil Dog
Looks like you gotta alot work to do here bud, better get busy setting everyone straight here.

Hey pal, I've done what I can. Ultimately though, the NAACP needs reactionaries like you, and reactionaries like you - need the NAACP.

You COM-PLETE each other.


Hey, I got an idea how about we just bury the letters "NAACP", worked for the "N word"? We'll just bury it and forget about them.

You seem to be pretty well versed on NAACP history - clearly more than I am. What do you mean by "bury the letters"?

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