Conservatives Draw Blood From Acorn (liberal view)

[Mike]

We know how truth based broadcasters are covering this story, but how about our Socialist supporting state-run media, whom have done their best to ignore the entire story, unless they can spin it as entrapment or racist?

From that beacon of journalistic integrity, the New York Times:

Conservative advocates and broadcasters were gleeful about the success of the tactics in exposing Acorn workers, who appeared to blithely encourage prostitution and tax evasion. It was, in effect, the latest scalp claimed by those on the right who have made no secret of their hope to weaken the Obama administration by attacking allies and appointees they view as leftist.

The Acorn controversy came a week after the resignation of Van Jones, a White House environmental official attacked by conservatives, led by Glenn Beck of Fox News Channel, for once signing a petition suggesting that Bush administration officials might have deliberately permitted the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Even before Mr. Jones stepped down, Mr. Beck had sent a message to supporters on Twitter urging them to “find everything you can” on three other Obama appointees.

Conservatives believe that they have hit upon a winning formula for such attacks: mobilizing people to dig up dirt, trumpeting it on talk radio and television, prompting Congress to weigh in and demanding action from the Obama administration.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/16/us/politics/16acorn.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss

Even as the NY Times whitewashes the story they were forced to carry, and downplays the efforts of the young investigative reporters - they highlight how effective the conservative movement is being at exposing the rampant corruption of the left. As for the winning formula, they are just peeved the right is using their own methods and improving on them.

 

[Larry Gude]

Why is ACORN helping hookers a national outrage yet long term and expanding voter fraud is not?

 

[Otter]

Why is ACORN helping hookers a national outrage yet long term and expanding voter fraud is not?

Because there is nothing concrete with the voter fraud, unless you put irrefutable proof directly in the face of the sheep, you don't have a prayer. Even with proof, its only a 10% chance they will listen.

 

[TurboK9]

Why is ACORN helping hookers a national outrage yet long term and expanding voter fraud is not?

Personally, I was a little more focused on the trafficking of minors into the US with the intent to whore them out... and that ACORN employees was supportive of the idea. THAT outrages me. The prostitution issue is merely an annoyance by comparison.

 

[Larry Gude]

Because there is nothing concrete with the voter fraud, unless you put irrefutable proof directly in the face of the sheep, you don't have a prayer. Even with proof, its only a 10% chance they will listen.

I understand that and you are, of course, correct. In a legal sense.

However, given what happened in 2000, Ashcroft having his seat stolen, Gore getting incredibly higher vote totals in ACORN type districts than Clinton got,. nationwide, and the HUGE fraud perpetrated in Florida that made the race far closer than it should have been, the issue should have and could have been raised, time and time again on the simple constitutional argument that, fraud or no fraud, the government should NOT be funding them.

Bush did not concede Florida because he knew that they had exceeded their estimates of what they needed in their districts, including a healthy margin for fraud in other districts. The untold story is that the fraud was MASSIVE.

 

[mAlice]

Personally, I was a little more focused on the trafficking of minors into the US with the intent to whore them out... and that ACORN employees was supportive of the idea. THAT outrages me. The prostitution issue is merely an annoyance by comparison.

And yet, I've not seen the words "human trafficking" anywhere.

 

[Mike]

And yet, I've not seen the words "human trafficking" anywhere.

You need to see the San Diego "sting." Stay tuned, It will be on NBC in a few weeks...

 

[Otter]

The untold story is that the fraud was MASSIVE.

I've never understood that, when there are 40k voters in a district and the vote tally shows 60k voted...wheres the investigation?? Of course this is exaggerated, but I would think bells would go off if a district has 93% turnout and others have the norm of 50 to 60%..or they run across dead people voting which never fails to happen in any national election..I never hear of any investigations..with the exception of Holder saying there was no intimidation at the polls in Philly..

 

[Larry Gude]

I've never understood that, when there are 40k voters in a district and the vote tally shows 60k voted...wheres the investigation?? Of course this is exaggerated, but I would think bells would go off if a district has 93% turnout and others have the norm of 50 to 60%..or they run across dead people voting which never fails to happen in any national election..I never hear of any investigations..with the exception of Holder saying there was no intimidation at the polls in Philly..

I did some digging around and put together some numbers from Philly and a couple other major cities and it was, to me, appalling; 80-90% turnout in 200 vs. 5-60% in 1996 and 1992? More people supporting Gore than Clinton, way more?

I came up with something like 25,000 more D votes, on average. Add in 20 major cities and that's a quick 500,000 votes, way more than enough to turn elections from local to House to Senate to the White House.

 

[Larry Gude]

I've never understood that, when there are 40k voters in a district and the vote tally shows 60k voted...wheres the investigation?? Of course this is exaggerated, but I would think bells would go off if a district has 93% turnout and others have the norm of 50 to 60%..or they run across dead people voting which never fails to happen in any national election..I never hear of any investigations..with the exception of Holder saying there was no intimidation at the polls in Philly..

A read a story years ago about a reporter who, upon seeing the obvious fraud in Chicago, JFK/Nixon, 1960. He, the story goes, asked some media pals in Chicago, where he'd never worked, why they didn't look into such an obviously huge story and they told him they knew, in no uncertain terms, they'd get murdered if they tried to do that story.

 

[aps45819]

Why is ACORN helping hookers a national outrage yet long term and expanding voter fraud is not?

There is no 20 year old hottie dressed like a hooker to grab your attention

 

[FredFlash]

...Socialist supporting state-run media York Times

The New York Times is owned by it's stockholders. I know this, because I'm one of them. I own a sizable chunk of it's Class A Stock.

 

[Go G-Men]

The New York Times is owned by it's stockholders. I know this, because I'm one of them. I own a sizable chunk of it's Class A Stock.

You may own the stock but you have no say in their socialist agenda. But than again you are a socialist so you wouldn't take issue with it anyway.

 

[ImnoMensa]

The media laying off on ACORN is bad, but even worse is the fraud and cheating in the halls of government.

Why is Charlie Rangel still head of the Ways and Means Committee after he has lied and cheated on his taxes? Why is John Murtha still head of pork in the House when he has his own ptivate airport and hi family is getting rich on Govrenment contracts. Why is Pelosi the Speaker of the House when she cheats the samoans working for her Tun fish husband out of their minumum wage. Why ismaxine waters still in Congress after her family enriches themselves and her husbands bank got millions from the feds.Why has no one investigated Michelle Obama's lucrative job at the hospital after her husband sent money there.

Certainly ACORN needs to be investigated, but they are no more criminal than their supporters and their lawyer Hussein Obama.

There are more crooks on the Hill than there are in most jails and the ethics committee is a joke, a bad joke.

What is even worse is that people like Steny Hoyer keep getting elected because he has bought off Maryland voters with their own money. As Murtha and the rest of the porkers do.

 

[Vince]

Conservative advocates and broadcasters were gleeful about the success of the tactics in exposing Acorn workers, who appeared to blithely encourage prostitution and tax evasion. It was, in effect, the latest scalp claimed by those on the right who have made no secret of their hope to weaken the Obama administration by attacking allies and appointees they view as leftist.

The Acorn controversy came a week after the resignation of Van Jones, a White House environmental official attacked by conservatives, led by Glenn Beck of Fox News Channel, for once signing a petition suggesting that Bush administration officials might have deliberately permitted the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Even before Mr. Jones stepped down, Mr. Beck had sent a message to supporters on Twitter urging them to “find everything you can” on three other Obama appointees.

I have never seen such a lopsided, turned around point of view in my life. No wonder I don't understand liberals. They are just plain stupid.

 

[cwo_ghwebb]

The New York Times is owned by it's stockholders. I know this, because I'm one of them. I own a sizable chunk of it's Class A Stock.

And since the stock has fallen from $40/share five years ago to a hair over $8/share now, you've shown us all your infinite wisdom in investments.

 

[chernmax]

And since the stock has fallen from $40/share five years ago to a hair over $8/share now, you've shown us all your infinite wisdom in investments.

The only thing that hack of a paper would be good for is wrapping up my used crab shells, fish guts, or starting my BBQ...

 

[cwo_ghwebb]

The only thing that hack of a paper would be good for is wrapping up my used crab shells, fish guts, or starting my BBQ...

I have a new puppy, I get the Sunday edition (still in the wrapper) and am using it to paper train Dowd.

 

[eddy1]

A read a story years ago about a reporter who, upon seeing the obvious fraud in Chicago, JFK/Nixon, 1960. He, the story goes, asked some media pals in Chicago, where he'd never worked, why they didn't look into such an obviously huge story and they told him they knew, in no uncertain terms, they'd get murdered if they tried to do that story.

I don't get what this has to do with current politics. In 1960, a black man would have a difficult time registering to vote in Mississippi. Now there is a mixed race man in the White House.

 

[Larry Gude]

I don't get what this has to do with current politics. In 1960, a black man would have a difficult time registering to vote in Mississippi. Now there is a mixed race man in the White House.

Do you think there is a significant amount of voter fraud these days?

Do you think there was in 1960, especially in Chicago?

If so, you may detect a common theme (hint; voter fraud) that kinda ties the two ages together.