Who Will Oppose Obama In 2012?

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
Will the demonrats put someone up from their party against "The Won" in the next election?

According to an article I saw on MSNBC.com, they are very afraid if they support a challenger for the nation's highest office, it would make them, and the kenyan - look bad - in the current political scheme.

They are wary about this. Many of his own partymembers do not support him, however what do you do when you've obviously elected a loser? Admit a mistake was made by electing him into office?

Did they "blow it" when they bypassed Hilary Clinton as their next leader, and threw their support behind Obammy?

You gotta wonder what the deep-down thinking is with these critters! :lol:
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
If things get better no one will run against him. If things get worse I expect BO not to run a second term.
 

Hessian

Well-Known Member
Dem options...

Lets forecast the Repubs taking the House and even-steven in the senate.
Naturally: almost nothing gets done right???
Cap & Trade halted,...Obamacare NOT dismantled but expansions fail.
Investigations on a number of deeds erupt-with little effect.

The Dems will use this malaise to blame the Repubs as a party of NO,..a party of bitter-revenge mongers.
The Won may portray the stagnant economy as "business as usual"-(we have seen that SO many times.)
THUS: He will run again: reviving the old Hoover campaign of: "Let my programs have a chance to work!" (will the debt crisis erupt?...if so: He IS gone!)

The quieter effort will be the Soros attack on the Tea party: impact? negligible---but if the Repubs that are elected shift toward "Can't we all just get along" aka Rodney King---becoming RINOS,..then I predict the Tea Party will have had enough of the Repubs and clearly merge into a new party.

It is in the court of the Repubs right now: Speak Truth...do not compromise, cling to conservative values--or you are gone.
 

philibusters

Active Member
Will the demonrats put someone up from their party against "The Won" in the next election?

According to an article I saw on MSNBC.com, they are very afraid if they support a challenger for the nation's highest office, it would make them, and the kenyan - look bad - in the current political scheme.

They are wary about this. Many of his own partymembers do not support him, however what do you do when you've obviously elected a loser? Admit a mistake was made by electing him into office?

Did they "blow it" when they bypassed Hilary Clinton as their next leader, and threw their support behind Obammy?

You gotta wonder what the deep-down thinking is with these critters! :lol:

To answer the question, I would say 99% chance the Democrats nominate Obama as their candidate. Its too early to say for sure, but hes the sitting President. Further, hes got over two years left until the 2012 election, its really early to guess what the landscape will look like in 2012 as we head down the stretch, but realistically all Obama needs to be competitive is for the economy to make some improvement. If the economy is better say unemployment down to 7% the stock market at 12,000 to 13,000 as the 2012 elections approach I think its safe to say that Obama will have a shot to get re-elected.
 

philibusters

Active Member
Lets forecast the Repubs taking the House and even-steven in the senate.
Naturally: almost nothing gets done right???
Cap & Trade halted,...Obamacare NOT dismantled but expansions fail.
Investigations on a number of deeds erupt-with little effect.

The Dems will use this malaise to blame the Repubs as a party of NO,..a party of bitter-revenge mongers.
The Won may portray the stagnant economy as "business as usual"-(we have seen that SO many times.)
THUS: He will run again: reviving the old Hoover campaign of: "Let my programs have a chance to work!" (will the debt crisis erupt?...if so: He IS gone!)

The quieter effort will be the Soros attack on the Tea party: impact? negligible---but if the Repubs that are elected shift toward "Can't we all just get along" aka Rodney King---becoming RINOS,..then I predict the Tea Party will have had enough of the Repubs and clearly merge into a new party.

It is in the court of the Repubs right now: Speak Truth...do not compromise, cling to conservative values--or you are gone.

I would be surprised if the tea party people did not end up voting Republican. However, assuming the economy shown at least some improvement that brings up the issue of can the Republican candidate win with a tea party platform if Obama decides to try and play the middle.
 

Hessian

Well-Known Member
Philbusters...

I am curious....2 things with Obama "playing the middle"--
a) How many people will that fool? By now much of America knows he is radical at the core: a shift to the middle might fool only the naive.
b) Inflame his radical supporters? A faux shift to center would raise howls of anger from the gay advocates...anti-military crowd...socialists...pro illegal immigrant crowd--How well would Obama weather this flare up?

Hillary...this is her final shot at office--she can't wait for 2016: she'll start to look like one of the characters from the Star Wars Night club scene. (And what will Iran do in the next year? It may be laid on her shoulders as we find out that Iran has been directly sponsoring terrorist & helping kill our troops in Afghan.,,then they go nuclear? Hey Hillary: couldn't get Russia on board? Or China?...how about even our Allies!!!)
Lets face it: the Dems are in a VERY tight spot for the next 2 years....and that keeps me smiling.
 

DipStick

Keep Calm and Don't Care!
Hillary Clinton's still alive and kicking, wouldn't be at all surprised if she ran against him in a DNC Primary in 2012.
 

ImnoMensa

New Member
If he erases the 16 trillion dollar debt between now and then I will vote for him myself..


Bwahahahahahahahahahahahhha
 

bresamil

wandering aimlessly
If things improve they will just push Obama again. People have short memories on things said and done and they'll forget the dark days. If things don't improve I see Obama saying he has a "medical condition" and that he chooses not to run (which saves face for both himself and the party).
 

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
Great commentary! Thanks to all who replied. :buddies:

Okay, next question: Who would the dems feel he or she could or would have a chance to do better for their party?

Who's in line for the job? Reid/Pelosi/Clinton/Kerry/Feingold?

Does The Won have a serious challenger from within his own party? :popcorn:
 

DipStick

Keep Calm and Don't Care!
Great commentary! Thanks to all who replied. :buddies:

Okay, next question: Who would the dems feel he or she could or would have a chance to do better for their party?

Who's in line for the job? Reid/Pelosi/Clinton/Kerry/Feingold?

Does The Won have a serious challenger from within his own party? :popcorn:

Hillary Clinton, Anthony Weiner, Alan Grayson.
 

DipStick

Keep Calm and Don't Care!
I'd like to see Rachel Maddow run against him, but I doubt she'd run since it appears NBC News is buttering her up for big things.
 

Mongo53

New Member
FDR pretty much had decided NOT to run for a 3rd Term, since after 8 years, unemployement was worse than when he took office, but the party convinced him to do otherwise and he won.

LBJ did NOT run, because it looked like he could NOT win, so he stepped aside for the party.

Ford did run, Reagan challenged him in the primaries, but he lost and so did Ford in the General.

Carter was in the same situation, still ran, IMO, the media suddenly changed their reporting when it looked like a Republican might win the white house, but despite that, Carter still lost.

A party looks weak and divided if they do NOT support their Leader. Thats why you'll see them pressure a leader to resign or NOT run, if they have a more viable candidate in the wings.

IMO, its still way to early to make predictions, the DEMS threw a lot behind Obama to get elected and support him while he was in office. The party will look bad if they turn their back on him. NOT to mention, the party that loves to use the race card, it will get dealt and do more damage.

2 years in, Clinton looked liked a one term President, when the Republicans took the house, he moved more toward the center, and IMO, rode Republican success's as his own. The republicans put up a weak challenger, and throw in Ross Perot to split the vote, and Clinton was re-elected.

History can repeat itself, are we NOT reliving the 70's in economic policy over again in many ways? There are NO good Republican Candidates that energize the party to run for president at the moment, it may just fall to the oldest and most senoir republican again, like against Clinton.

When Bob Dole was on the news with his off the cuff, "I don't get this vision thing my advisors all talk about" comment, I knew he couldn't win at that moment.
 
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PsyOps

Pixelated
To be quite honest about it, if the GOP takes control of Congress, I'm not sure I want a Republican president. We saw what that got us with Bush. If I knew they could discipline themselves I might feel better, but I just don't get that warm fuzzy. And nothing would make me feel better than to have a GOP congress render Obama completely ineffective.
 

chernmax

NOT Politically Correct!!
Funny Clinton gets praised with a surplus when Republicans were in charge of the House and Senate. Democrats take over the House and Senate and the economy takes a nose dive and Bush gets blamed. Now the Dems have everything and it's still the Republicans fault. The Democrats should change their party name to VICTOCRAT!!! Nothing seems to be their fault!
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
  1. Obama is too arrogant to not run for a second term
  2. It's unheard of for a party to get behind a challenger for an incumbent president
  3. The GOP better bring some schmoke in 2012 because the names being bandied about now are pathetic also-rans.
Huckabee? No.
Romney? No.
Pawlenty? No.
And certainly not that little goober from LA that they were trying to push a couple years ago.

Palin isn't going to run, and the only other GOP person I like is Mitch Daniels, who also won't throw his hat in.

So I'll write in Kiki Stinkertoes, Bunny Huntress Extraordinaire.
 

Mongo53

New Member
To be quite honest about it, if the GOP takes control of Congress, I'm not sure I want a Republican president. We saw what that got us with Bush. If I knew they could discipline themselves I might feel better, but I just don't get that warm fuzzy. And nothing would make me feel better than to have a GOP congress render Obama completely ineffective.
Yes, the Congress is really where the power is at to effect the economy, the President only wields in the sense of how well he can lead the Congress in his direction to fix or harm the economy.

The problem will be the wishy washy, often know-little moderates in the middle, they will change their minds with the blowing of the wind, or the latest sound bite from the media. As soon as the Republicans have to hold on to power, they'll have to start cow-towing to those buffoons. NOT an excuse, but it is a pressure that explains why you only get a short term of people trying to shrink government.
 
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