Obama Changes the Declaration of Independence
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You're absolutely right! It was late when I posted that last night. I should have caught that part.
(on second thought, though - I did think the writer had oddly phrased it.)
hvp05
Methodically disorganized
That is peculiar. I would be willing to write that off as an over-reaction to a mistake, however a few things have me pondering if there may be substance to this after all...
First, the easy one: He is reciting one of the most well-known passages of one of our most frequently read Founding Documents. Elementary school kids nationwide have to learn that for school plays each year, so I would expect The O, as President of the U.S., to know it as well. Especially when he had his buddy TP to rely upon for guidance. If he couldn't get it right, he should have not included it in the first place.
Second, the more subtle aspects of his body language. I am glad the writer noted these things, because such clues can be important to understand what someone is truly thinking.
Lastly, and as I said above, through most of the rest of the speech, The O speaks pointedly and freely. What makes the aforementioned points notable is not simply that they occur, but that they occur together, only once, and at a key point.
Which leads to another interesting moment: when he brings up Arizona's SB1070 (around time 10:10). The O was no doubt expecting uniform applause at this point, but there are what sound to be some boos coming towards him. He raises his voice and at 10:13 his voice cracks. If you pause at 10:18, he is staring at the audience sternly, obviously a little put off.
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Other highlights...
"So when I took office, I insisted that we could only rebuild our economy if we started growing the economy for all of our people, not just some of our people, if we provided economic security for all of our working families all across America." How can the government guarantee so-called 'economic security' for everyone under a free market. The short answer is it can't. This is clearly more "spread the wealth around" socialist gibberish.
"We had to renew the fundamental idea that everybody in America - everybody in America - has a chance to make it if they try - no matter who they are, no matter what they look like, no matter where they come from or where they were born. That's the idea that drives us: the chance to make of our lives what we will." The way to achieve that is, naturally, to divide us into a thousand sub-groups - such as the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, for example - so that some of us can be "more equal" than others.
Following the "Creator" alteration, my second favorite thing about this speech actually comes by way of a dichotomy of separate statements. The first goes from 12:40 to 13:13, where he is resurrecting the Republican label as "the party of 'no'". He describes Republican opposition to his plans as a "blockade" and proceeds to blame them for his initiatives not moving forward faster. (He reiterates this around 19:00.)
Now, contrast that against what he states from 19:57 to 20:26: "So let me say this, not just to the folks who are in this room, but to the Latino community across this country: you have every right to keep the heat on me and keep the heat on the Democrats - and I hope you do. That's how our political process works. But don't forget who is standing with you, and who is standing against you." (After which he proceeds to remind the audience how Democrats have
'stood with them'.)
This guy is classic! He asks for "opposition" only as long as they will end up agreeing with him... everyone else be cast into the pit! Sad thing is, all too many folks will agree to do just that - choose to keep their political leash on and be led wherever they are told.
And there you have him: the American President.
First, the easy one: He is reciting one of the most well-known passages of one of our most frequently read Founding Documents. Elementary school kids nationwide have to learn that for school plays each year, so I would expect The O, as President of the U.S., to know it as well. Especially when he had his buddy TP to rely upon for guidance. If he couldn't get it right, he should have not included it in the first place.
Second, the more subtle aspects of his body language. I am glad the writer noted these things, because such clues can be important to understand what someone is truly thinking.
The pause. Pauses indicate someone is thinking about what to say next. If The O had had to formulate an answer, a pause would have been understandable, even expected. Given that he had his words laid before him, a long pause seems odd. This is contrasted against virtually the rest of the speech where he spoke easily.
His face and voice markedly change at that instant. His face droops and tightens a bit, and his voice momentarily weakens; it almost seems as if he loses his vigor. A body language analyst might view those as a lack of conviction and/or apprehension.
Perhaps our most telling body parts are our eyes. If you watch closely, his blinking becomes briefly rapid. As this site points out, increased blinking can most commonly be due to one or a combination of 3 things: romantic interest, stress,
or lying. We can pretty safely rule out #1. Stress would be surprising, because if you watch most of the rest of the speech, The O comes across relaxed, jovial and confident. Lying would be the most disappointing because it would mean he does not believe those words - our Founding Fathers' words; rather hypocritical when he is employing those words in a rallying cry for others to follow.
His face and voice markedly change at that instant. His face droops and tightens a bit, and his voice momentarily weakens; it almost seems as if he loses his vigor. A body language analyst might view those as a lack of conviction and/or apprehension.
Perhaps our most telling body parts are our eyes. If you watch closely, his blinking becomes briefly rapid. As this site points out, increased blinking can most commonly be due to one or a combination of 3 things: romantic interest, stress,
or lying. We can pretty safely rule out #1. Stress would be surprising, because if you watch most of the rest of the speech, The O comes across relaxed, jovial and confident. Lying would be the most disappointing because it would mean he does not believe those words - our Founding Fathers' words; rather hypocritical when he is employing those words in a rallying cry for others to follow.
Lastly, and as I said above, through most of the rest of the speech, The O speaks pointedly and freely. What makes the aforementioned points notable is not simply that they occur, but that they occur together, only once, and at a key point.
Which leads to another interesting moment: when he brings up Arizona's SB1070 (around time 10:10). The O was no doubt expecting uniform applause at this point, but there are what sound to be some boos coming towards him. He raises his voice and at 10:13 his voice cracks. If you pause at 10:18, he is staring at the audience sternly, obviously a little put off.
----
Other highlights...
"So when I took office, I insisted that we could only rebuild our economy if we started growing the economy for all of our people, not just some of our people, if we provided economic security for all of our working families all across America." How can the government guarantee so-called 'economic security' for everyone under a free market. The short answer is it can't. This is clearly more "spread the wealth around" socialist gibberish.
"We had to renew the fundamental idea that everybody in America - everybody in America - has a chance to make it if they try - no matter who they are, no matter what they look like, no matter where they come from or where they were born. That's the idea that drives us: the chance to make of our lives what we will." The way to achieve that is, naturally, to divide us into a thousand sub-groups - such as the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, for example - so that some of us can be "more equal" than others.
Following the "Creator" alteration, my second favorite thing about this speech actually comes by way of a dichotomy of separate statements. The first goes from 12:40 to 13:13, where he is resurrecting the Republican label as "the party of 'no'". He describes Republican opposition to his plans as a "blockade" and proceeds to blame them for his initiatives not moving forward faster. (He reiterates this around 19:00.)
Now, contrast that against what he states from 19:57 to 20:26: "So let me say this, not just to the folks who are in this room, but to the Latino community across this country: you have every right to keep the heat on me and keep the heat on the Democrats - and I hope you do. That's how our political process works. But don't forget who is standing with you, and who is standing against you." (After which he proceeds to remind the audience how Democrats have
'stood with them'.)
This guy is classic! He asks for "opposition" only as long as they will end up agreeing with him... everyone else be cast into the pit! Sad thing is, all too many folks will agree to do just that - choose to keep their political leash on and be led wherever they are told.And there you have him: the American President.
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somdforever
Member
An even simpler explanation could be
that he just couldn't bring himself to say "Creator". What might that be telling you? By the time he leaves office, the word "Creator" may be replaced by "Allah"! 2012 can't get here fast enough!
That is peculiar. I would be willing to write that off as an over-reaction to a mistake, however a few things have me pondering if there may be substance to this after all...
First, the easy one: He is reciting one of the most well-known passages of one of our most frequently read Founding Documents. Elementary school kids nationwide have to learn that for school plays each year, so I would expect The O, as President of the U.S., to know it as well. Especially when he had his buddy TP to rely upon for guidance. If he couldn't get it right, he should have not included it in the first place.
Second, the more subtle aspects of his body language. I am glad the writer noted these things, because such clues can be important to understand what someone is truly thinking.
The pause. Pauses indicate someone is thinking about what to say next. If The O had had to formulate an answer, a pause would have been understandable, even expected. Given that he had his words laid before him, a long pause seems odd. This is contrasted against virtually the rest of the speech where he spoke easily.
His face and voice markedly change at that instant. His face droops and tightens a bit, and his voice momentarily weakens; it almost seems as if he loses his vigor. A body language analyst might view those as a lack of conviction and/or apprehension.
Perhaps our most telling body parts are our eyes. If you watch closely, his blinking becomes briefly rapid. As this site points out, increased blinking can most commonly be due to one or a combination of 3 things: romantic interest, stress,
or lying. We can pretty safely rule out #1. Stress would be surprising, because if you watch most of the rest of the speech, The O comes across relaxed, jovial and confident. Lying would be the most disappointing because it would mean he does not believe those words - our Founding Fathers' words; rather hypocritical when he is employing those words in a rallying cry for others to follow.
Lastly, and as I said above, through most of the rest of the speech, The O speaks pointedly and freely. What makes the aforementioned points notable is not simply that they occur, but that they occur together, only once, and at a key point.
Which leads to another interesting moment: when he brings up Arizona's SB1070 (around time 10:10). The O was no doubt expecting uniform applause at this point, but there are what sound to be some boos coming towards him. He raises his voice and at 10:13 his voice cracks. If you pause at 10:18, he is staring at the audience sternly, obviously a little put off.
----
Other highlights...
"So when I took office, I insisted that we could only rebuild our economy if we started growing the economy for all of our people, not just some of our people, if we provided economic security for all of our working families all across America." How can the government guarantee so-called 'economic security' for everyone under a free market. The short answer is it can't. This is clearly more "spread the wealth around" socialist gibberish.
"We had to renew the fundamental idea that everybody in America - everybody in America - has a chance to make it if they try - no matter who they are, no matter what they look like, no matter where they come from or where they were born. That's the idea that drives us: the chance to make of our lives what we will." The way to achieve that is, naturally, to divide us into a thousand sub-groups - such as the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, for example - so that some of us can be "more equal" than others.
Following the "Creator" alteration, my second favorite thing about this speech actually comes by way of a dichotomy of separate statements. The first goes from 12:40 to 13:13, where he is resurrecting the Republican label as "the party of 'no'". He describes Republican opposition to his plans as a "blockade" and proceeds to blame them for his initiatives not moving forward faster. (He reiterates this around 19:00.)
Now, contrast that against what he states from 19:57 to 20:26: "So let me say this, not just to the folks who are in this room, but to the Latino community across this country: you have every right to keep the heat on me and keep the heat on the Democrats - and I hope you do. That's how our political process works. But don't forget who is standing with you, and who is standing against you." (After which he proceeds to remind the audience how Democrats have
'stood with them'.)
And there you have him: the American President.
that he just couldn't bring himself to say "Creator". What might that be telling you? By the time he leaves office, the word "Creator" may be replaced by "Allah"! 2012 can't get here fast enough!
hvp05
Methodically disorganized
Actually, my first thought was, "His Muslim friends will be upset by that," because to them, Creator = Allah.
You wing nut Nazis are the most ignorant, straw grasping people I have ever seen. You are definitely over caffeinated, God help this nation!
Bay_Kat
Tropical
Exactly, because Obama sure isn't.
Tech
Well-Known Member
Libs can't stand that rights are given by the Creator, not the goverment. This would cause them to acknowledge that the goverment is subservant to the Creator.
The Bill of Rights does not given citizens rights, it restricts the power of goverment. Libs do not understand this.
The Bill of Rights does not given citizens rights, it restricts the power of goverment. Libs do not understand this.
hvp05
Methodically disorganized
Woohoo!!
You deny that Muslims believe Allah is the Creator?
You might want to lock your doors - they'll be coming for your head soon.
He stopped the nation from going into a full fledged depression, wing nut. Unfortunately, it will take many years to undo the damage the ultimate wing nut (GWB) did to America.
That is peculiar. I would be willing to write that off as an over-reaction to a mistake, however a few things have me pondering if there may be substance to this after all...
First, the easy one: He is reciting one of the most well-known passages of one of our most frequently read Founding Documents. Elementary school kids nationwide have to learn that for school plays each year, so I would expect The O, as President of the U.S., to know it as well. Especially when he had his buddy TP to rely upon for guidance. If he couldn't get it right, he should have not included it in the first place.
Second, the more subtle aspects of his body language. I am glad the writer noted these things, because such clues can be important to understand what someone is truly thinking.
The pause. Pauses indicate someone is thinking about what to say next. If The O had had to formulate an answer, a pause would have been understandable, even expected. Given that he had his words laid before him, a long pause seems odd. This is contrasted against virtually the rest of the speech where he spoke easily.
His face and voice markedly change at that instant. His face droops and tightens a bit, and his voice momentarily weakens; it almost seems as if he loses his vigor. A body language analyst might view those as a lack of conviction and/or apprehension.
Perhaps our most telling body parts are our eyes. If you watch closely, his blinking becomes briefly rapid. As this site points out, increased blinking can most commonly be due to one or a combination of 3 things: romantic interest, stress,
or lying. We can pretty safely rule out #1. Stress would be surprising, because if you watch most of the rest of the speech, The O comes across relaxed, jovial and confident. Lying would be the most disappointing because it would mean he does not believe those words - our Founding Fathers' words; rather hypocritical when he is employing those words in a rallying cry for others to follow.
Lastly, and as I said above, through most of the rest of the speech, The O speaks pointedly and freely. What makes the aforementioned points notable is not simply that they occur, but that they occur together, only once, and at a key point.
Which leads to another interesting moment: when he brings up Arizona's SB1070 (around time 10:10). The O was no doubt expecting uniform applause at this point, but there are what sound to be some boos coming towards him. He raises his voice and at 10:13 his voice cracks. If you pause at 10:18, he is staring at the audience sternly, obviously a little put off.
----
Other highlights...
"So when I took office, I insisted that we could only rebuild our economy if we started growing the economy for all of our people, not just some of our people, if we provided economic security for all of our working families all across America." How can the government guarantee so-called 'economic security' for everyone under a free market. The short answer is it can't. This is clearly more "spread the wealth around" socialist gibberish.
"We had to renew the fundamental idea that everybody in America - everybody in America - has a chance to make it if they try - no matter who they are, no matter what they look like, no matter where they come from or where they were born. That's the idea that drives us: the chance to make of our lives what we will." The way to achieve that is, naturally, to divide us into a thousand sub-groups - such as the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, for example - so that some of us can be "more equal" than others.
Following the "Creator" alteration, my second favorite thing about this speech actually comes by way of a dichotomy of separate statements. The first goes from 12:40 to 13:13, where he is resurrecting the Republican label as "the party of 'no'". He describes Republican opposition to his plans as a "blockade" and proceeds to blame them for his initiatives not moving forward faster. (He reiterates this around 19:00.)
Now, contrast that against what he states from 19:57 to 20:26: "So let me say this, not just to the folks who are in this room, but to the Latino community across this country: you have every right to keep the heat on me and keep the heat on the Democrats - and I hope you do. That's how our political process works. But don't forget who is standing with you, and who is standing against you." (After which he proceeds to remind the audience how Democrats have
'stood with them'.)
And there you have him: the American President.
I'm sorry, but I think that is WAY too much thought process for what he did.
If there were no video to go with this, I would give some thought to it. I watched the entire speech (UGH, yes I did) and it was clear to me that he purposely paused as he was reading that passage and consciously decided to alter it.
He CHANGED the wording of the Declaration of Independence! It was no accident. How arrogant of him to just alter one of, if not the most important, documents in our nation's history without any real regard at all. It's just stunning.
hvp05
Methodically disorganized
We're saying the same things.
Bill O'Reilly has - or used to have - a body language analyst come on his show periodically to review speech clips. She would break down all the things like hand gestures, posture, head movements, etc.
When I was watching him, I really wanted to get into how he was speaking at that moment... and then contrast it with the rest of the speech.
He definitely altered the presentation. And for the other sections I pointed out, I think that speech was a defining moment - but now how he intended.
Lenny
Lovin' being Texican
In his defense, at the time most American-born children learn these lines, ZERO was obtaining his education in a Muslim Madrases in Indonesia. We'll have to blame Stanley for this hole in his Americanization.
chernmax
NOT Politically Correct!!
We're saying the same things.
Bill O'Reilly has - or used to have - a body language analyst come on his show periodically to review speech clips. She would break down all the things like hand gestures, posture, head movements, etc.
When I was watching him, I really wanted to get into how he was speaking at that moment... and then contrast it with the rest of the speech.
He definitely altered the presentation. And for the other sections I pointed out, I think that speech was a defining moment - but now how he intended.
I think the whole speech was just one big kiss up to the Latinos - he doesn't believe that crap - he only wants them to vote for him. The only defining moment in my opinion was where he leaves out the creator in the D of I - that was purposeful and intentional.
Speed Racer
New Member
Yah, you just keep telling yourself that as you're standing in the bread line for your next meal.
ImnoMensa
New Member
I watched the whole speech and watched his eyes. he could not keep them open. He appeared to me to be on drugs. He was high as a Georgia Pine during the whole speech.
hvp05
Methodically disorganized
Now there's a twist!
