The Tea Party is not new

nhboy

Ubi bene ibi patria
The Tea Party is not new, or coherent. It's merely old whine in new bottles | Gary Younge | Comment is free | The Guardian

The "Tea Party" does not exist. It has no members, leaders, office bearers, headquarters, policies, participatory structures, budget or representatives. The Tea Party is shorthand for a broad, shallow sentiment about low taxes and small government shared by loosely affiliated, somewhat like-minded people. That doesn't mean the right isn't resurgent. It is. But the forces driving its political energy are not those that underpinned its recent electoral success.

The Tea Party is not a new phenomenon. It's simply a new name for an old phenomenon – the American hard right. Over the last two years the term has provided a rallying point for a coalition of disparate groups, most of which have been around for many years. Minutemen (anti-immigrant vigilantes), birthers (who deny that Obama was born in the US), Promise Keepers (Conservative Christian men), Oath Keepers (military and police, retired and current, who vow to resist unconstitutional government "by any means necessary"), Fox News watchers, Glenn Beck lovers and Rush Limbaugh listeners who had no unifying identity before.
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
The Tea Party is not a new phenomenon. It's simply a new name for an old phenomenon – the American hard right. Over the last two years the term has provided a rallying point for a coalition of disparate groups, most of which have been around for many years. Minutemen (anti-immigrant vigilantes), birthers (who deny that Obama was born in the US), Promise Keepers (Conservative Christian men), Oath Keepers (military and police, retired and current, who vow to resist unconstitutional government "by any means necessary")

You left out the other group of Americans who decided they were paying to many taxes to a government that didn't represent their needs, the colonial patriots
 

Starman3000m

New Member
The Tea Party is not new, or coherent. It's merely old whine in new bottles | Gary Younge | Comment is free | The Guardian

The "Tea Party" does not exist. It has no members, leaders, office bearers, headquarters, policies, participatory structures, budget or representatives. The Tea Party is shorthand for a broad, shallow sentiment about low taxes and small government shared by loosely affiliated, somewhat like-minded people. That doesn't mean the right isn't resurgent. It is. But the forces driving its political energy are not those that underpinned its recent electoral success.

The Tea Party is not a new phenomenon. It's simply a new name for an old phenomenon – the American hard right. Over the last two years the term has provided a rallying point for a coalition of disparate groups, most of which have been around for many years. Minutemen (anti-immigrant vigilantes), birthers (who deny that Obama was born in the US), Promise Keepers (Conservative Christian men), Oath Keepers (military and police, retired and current, who vow to resist unconstitutional government "by any means necessary"), Fox News watchers, Glenn Beck lovers and Rush Limbaugh listeners who had no unifying identity before.

Hmmm... I hope you realize that Socialism is NOT new either. Now, would you rather live in a country that still values "Tea Party" patriotism to the U.S. flag, and gives a darn about the future of this country and future of our citizens (including you) or are you happy to see the individual rights provided under the U.S. Constitution slowy erode into the path of a socialistic rule? I think I already know your answer; it's painted all over your avatar!
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hvp05

Methodically disorganized
Another thing...
The Tea Party is shorthand for a broad, shallow sentiment about low taxes and small government shared by loosely affiliated, somewhat like-minded people.
How does this fool know what TEA Party people believe? (Obviously he doesn't.) He cannot honestly presume to know supporters' sentiments are "shallow" or their connections "loose".

Truth be told, ALL voters should think as TEA Partiers are thinking: on ideas. Becoming beholden to party is what has created such division in our current political atmosphere and party-line strongholds like the entitlement class going all-in for the Dems.

Perhaps if folks would dare think outside the box and consider ideas and values, they would make more rational, intelligent decisions. As a side benefit, such a shift could also lead to a virtual death knell for the Progressive movement.
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
Promise Keepers (Conservative Christian men), Oath Keepers (military and police, retired and current, who vow to resist unconstitutional government "by any means necessary"),

Clearly anyone can see that people who value their promises and oaths should not be trusted! Ignorant fools! Don't they know that honesty is obsolete?

And there is no group less trustworthy than the military and police. It's a good thing we have those ubersmart liberals to control them, or they might do something stupid like protect those too weak to protect themselves.

You liberals are so pursuasive with these arguments. Good job, Comrade!
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
Since it doesn't exist, there's no rational reason to even discuss it then, is there?

It is not a "party" but it is clearly a movement and as such, will NOT have leaders, headquarters, policies or budgets. Once it has those things, it ceases being a movement and crystallizes into something else. It surprises me not at all that liberals dispute such things - by their peculiar allegiance to embodying their beliefs and agenda in a political body or government, they can't conceive of such a thing outside of it.

And whether you believe it exists or not, it is clearly having an effect on American politics.

"There is one thing stronger than all the armies in the world, and that is an idea whose time has come." Victor Hugo
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
The Tea Party is not new, or coherent. It's merely old whine in new bottles | Gary Younge | Comment is free | The Guardian

The "Tea Party" does not exist. It has no members, leaders, office bearers, headquarters, policies, participatory structures, budget or representatives. The Tea Party is shorthand for a broad, shallow sentiment about low taxes and small government shared by loosely affiliated, somewhat like-minded people. That doesn't mean the right isn't resurgent. It is. But the forces driving its political energy are not those that underpinned its recent electoral success.

The Tea Party is not a new phenomenon. It's simply a new name for an old phenomenon – the American hard right. Over the last two years the term has provided a rallying point for a coalition of disparate groups, most of which have been around for many years. Minutemen (anti-immigrant vigilantes), birthers (who deny that Obama was born in the US), Promise Keepers (Conservative Christian men), Oath Keepers (military and police, retired and current, who vow to resist unconstitutional government "by any means necessary"), Fox News watchers, Glenn Beck lovers and Rush Limbaugh listeners who had no unifying identity before.

Seeings how it's your link, would you mind explaining why you posted it and what you got out of it. I read it and don't see a point other than as some sort of vague desire to explain what just happened to the Democrats in terms that exclude the possibility that people, most people, simply do not think Nancy and Barack and Harry have done a good job for the nation.

A little help, please.
 

bcp

In My Opinion
I expect to see a whole lot of this type of thing over the next few months, much of it for the first few months of the new year.
The left just is not handling that fact that the majority of the country does not agree with them.

It must be very hard to be so disliked.

Oh well, the planes leave for Europe on the hour.
 

hvp05

Methodically disorganized
Oh well, the planes leave for Europe on the hour.
I wish the Lefties could stick to their word for once and leave the country as they have "threatened" to do so many times. I'd help throw the bon voyage party. :howdy:
 

Lenny

Lovin' being Texican
Yeah, right. As if the Guardian has a bead on America's thinking. Here's an interesting example. A single loss on Election Night (of a candidate that nobody expected to win) and the TEA Party is destroyed.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
Is it just me, or..? It appears that 'nhboy' was either trained by 'nonno' or is 'nonno'. Cut and paste a link to some extreme left drivel and vitriole and then ..vanish.


Good grief. That is worse than lame.
 
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