So I'm reading about sex offenders

rdytogo

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I’m reading about arrested sex offenders on another web site, and I come across this post. It's the most hilarious thing I have read since looking at job applications from high school kids when I was a manager of a pizza business in an urban area many years ago.

soccermother 11/18/2010 at 6:28 PM
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this is the problem with SO after they are released from jail they have no place to live. YES there are some who should not be released. Like PhatDaddy said you can be labeled and many have for just peeing behind a bush. Think about the hunter who are out hunting can you tell me they will go back to camp or to McDonald to use the bathroom. No they will pee in the field. Does make them a Sex offender?

What about the teenagers who have had sex with thier boyfreind or girlfreind. Some may have just turned 18 and the other is still 16 or 17. Does this make them a Sex Offender?

I am sorry that Jessica Lunsford or Adam Walsh was killed but read the stories Adam was not killed by a Sex Offender. Jesica's father was found to have child prono on his computer why is her not a Sex Offender. Her 18 year old brother Josuha had sex with a 14 after he was warned to stay away. But daddy when to Ohio and blasted the Ohio courts. Josuha is not required to to register. Now Jousha was his record expunded but under the laws a sex crime can not be expunded. Why can he have his eared but other teens can not and are required to sing up on /the Sex Offender registery for life?

Is it just me, or is this funny? Forget all the things she got wrong, the factual information that is incorrect. But the words written are funny.
 

FED_UP

Well-Known Member
I’m reading about arrested sex offenders on another web site, and I come across this post. It's the most hilarious thing I have read since looking at job applications from high school kids when I was a manager of a pizza business in an urban area many years ago.



Is it just me, or is this funny? Forget all the things she got wrong, the factual information that is incorrect. But the words written are funny.

Did a 5 year old write that? OMG HEY Soccer Mom is that you but disguised your name to Soccer Mother?
 

Fishn Guy

That's Dr. Fishn to you..
I’m reading about arrested sex offenders on another web site, and I come across this post. It's the most hilarious thing I have read since looking at job applications from high school kids when I was a manager of a pizza business in an urban area many years ago.



Is it just me, or is this funny? Forget all the things she got wrong, the factual information that is incorrect. But the words written are funny.

Cause Child "prono" is not funny?
wtf? I think if I read that with more than a 6 pack in me, I'd die of foreign melingre
 

rdytogo

New Member
I have a question. Can someone who gets a probation before judgement on a sex offense charge be placed on the sex offender registry?
 

BernieP

Resident PIA
I have a question. Can someone who gets a probation before judgement on a sex offense charge be placed on the sex offender registry?

Interesting question but I would have to say no, not if they complete the probation. I don't think the "arrest" ever goes away, I think charges are dropped and therefore no conviction. No conviction would seem to mean they would not get the Sex Offender label.

and yes, I was able to pick up some "points". Unfortunately the label is applied for a broad variety of convictions. I think what they were suggesting was that some of the registered "offendors" Might not be a danger. Creepy, but not a danger.
 
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itsrequired

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I have a question. Can someone who gets a probation before judgement on a sex offense charge be placed on the sex offender registry?

According to this site, it seems as if they do.


MD Department of Public Safety and Correctional Services

Q1. Who Must Register?
Individuals convicted by a court of law of a sexual offense must register. The term and category of registration depends on the crime of conviction, the age of the victim and the date that the offense was committed.

"Convicted" means when the person:
(1) Is found guilty of a crime by a jury or judicial officer;

(2) Enters a plea of guilty or nolo contendere;

(3) Is granted a probation before judgment** after a finding of guilt for a crime if the court, as a condition of probation, orders
compliance with the requirements of this subtitle; or


(4) Is found not criminally responsible for a crime.
 

itsrequired

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As for Jessica's dad, he turned out to be a publicity hound who from what I understand made a fortune off of the laws he was instrumental in getting passed. Besides, mandatory minimums don't work. Plain and simple. We've seen it with drug crimes and many other crimes. Take away a judge's discrescion, and you end up with cases in which an 18-year-old has to go away for 25 years due to having an underage girlfriend. The reason real pedophiles serve too little time isn't because of lenient judges; it's because of plea bargaining. In other words, a defendant and a real pedophile facing a boat load of charges gets to plead guilty to all but the one that triggers the mandatory minimum, and he thus gets off with an 18-month sentence. Jessica's Law does not change this. Instead, it simple alows politichins to boast that they helped pass "tough legislation on child sex crimes" and it alows a bunch of unthinking women to feel like they made a diference by calling there lawmakers.

Do I want a 18-year-old punished for messing with a 14-year-old girlfriend? Absolutely! Especialy if it was my daughter. Do I think he should be labeled for life as sex ofender in that case? No, Not even when it involves my daughter. I doupt vary serously hell still be chasing 14-year-olds when he is 40.

An eighteen year old messing with a fourteen year old, as long as the sex is not forced on the fourteen year old can only be a misdemeanor in Maryland. If their dates of birth fall in such a way that they are not four years apart, it isn't even a crime.

This is the myth which sex offenders are always trying to portray. They try to make people believe that all of the people on the sex offender registry are people peeing in bushes or people who are 18 having sex with their year or two younger girlfriend. Even if a person is 18 having sex which isn't forced on a 14 year old, they won't be registered for life. They would be a tier one offender. So when that 18 year old is 40, he will be off of the sex offender registry.
 

BernieP

Resident PIA
An eighteen year old messing with a fourteen year old, as long as the sex is not forced on the fourteen year old can only be a misdemeanor in Maryland. If their dates of birth fall in such a way that they are not four years apart, it isn't even a crime.

This is the myth which sex offenders are always trying to portray. They try to make people believe that all of the people on the sex offender registry are people peeing in bushes or people who are 18 having sex with their year or two younger girlfriend. Even if a person is 18 having sex which isn't forced on a 14 year old, they won't be registered for life. They would be a tier one offender. So when that 18 year old is 40, he will be off of the sex offender registry.

I believe that consentual or not, sex with a female under the age of 17 is considered rape - particularly if the male is 18 (or over - an adult). They can be one year apart, it doesn't matter.

It would be a lot more clear if they post the actual crime, i.e. "RAPE", "CHILD MOLESTER". The fact that people constantly debate who and what goes on the registry indicates it's not clear to the public.
Fact is people get convicted of "sex crimes" for a variety of things, like taking a rural leak, it all depends on how local laws and enforcement are handled. Some places might call it public urination, others might consider it "exposure". We don't know, reporting often sensationalizes the charges (probably because it's the state's attorney who is issuing the press release) and the common man doesn't understand the legal code words, like "tier 1".

Another example (of age and gender) a high school girl sexting with her class mates - the person recieving the picture is guilty of child porn if the female in question is under 18. Check out the case in NY State. Do you put them on the same level as a 40 year old male with a hard drive full of pictures of little boys?
 
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itsrequired

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I believe that consentual or not, sex with a female under the age of 17 is considered rape - particularly if the male is 18 (or over - an adult). They can be one year apart, it doesn't matter.

Is that your personal belief or do you believe that is what the law dictates?

It would be a lot more clear if they post the actual crime, i.e. "RAPE", "CHILD MOLESTER". The fact that people constantly debate who and what goes on the registry indicates it's not clear to the public.
Fact is people get convicted of "sex crimes" for a variety of things, like taking a rural leak, it all depends on how local laws and enforcement are handled.

Not in Maryland they don't. I don't know of any jurisdiction where a person is convicted of a "sex" crime for peeing in public. Enlighten me please.

Some places might call it public urination, others might consider it "exposure". We don't know, reporting often sensationalizes the charges (probably because it's the state's attorney who is issuing the press release) and the common man doesn't understand the legal code words, like "tier 1".

Another example (of age and gender) a high school girl sexting with her class mates - the person recieving the picture is guilty of child porn if the female in question is under 18. Check out the case in NY State. Do you put them on the same level as a 40 year old male with a hard drive full of pictures of little boys?

I don't know what happens in NY State. I live in Maryland and this is a Maryland forum. Do you have a link to the "NY State" case?
 

TurboK9

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I don't know what happens in NY State. I live in Maryland and this is a Maryland forum. Do you have a link to the "NY State" case?

OK all I know is, after you posted, I saw this...


So I'm reading about sex...

itsrequired


It's required?!?! Awesome!!

:roflmao:

Best forum title and poster combo ever!! :yay:
 
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letmetellyou

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I don't know what happens in NY State. I live in Maryland and this is a Maryland forum. Do you have a link to the "NY State" case?

I always hear about these cases where a boyfriend has sex with a girlfriend a year or two younger, but none of them are local or in Maryland. That leads me to believe that Maryland's laws are pretty reasonable. I know there is a four year difference or something which sounds right to me.
 
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letmetellyou

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ITSREQUIRED, there was a case in Virginia that made the news within the past year because a man had been convicted of peeing while drunk in his backyard while children next door were within view. He was convicted of "indecent exposure to minors" or something or other, and now must register as a sex offender for LIFE. This is significant for Maryland because if he were to move to Maryland he would still have to register in Maryland, and MD would classify his registration by matching the crime he committed in VA with whatever MD law matches it most closely.

I'm with Its required. Do you have a link? There usually is another side to the story. The guy's story is he was merely peeing, then the parents of the kids say that he only "pee's" when the kids are playing outside. Or when he "pee's" he is fully erect and seems to be shaking it off for several minutes. My point is, there is a lot of stuff that happens before it gets to the level where the guy is convicted and placed on the registry. I don't believe it happens just because they were innocently peeing.
 
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letmetellyou

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So, in other words, you are just going to assume he is a pedophile without knowing all the facts?

No, not at all. I don't know if he is a pedophile or not. I will conclude that he was convicted of a crime where he was acting in a sexual manner not consistent with the norms of society though.
 

royhobie

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The Answer Is Yes

I have a question. Can someone who gets a probation before judgement on a sex offense charge be placed on the sex offender registry?

Yes! A judge can and does have this authority. The judge looks at the circumstances of what occured and how the legislators wrote the law which is supposed to decide whether or not the person is placed on the sex register. It also is dependent upon the agreement of the prosecutor and the defense to what occurs during the judgement.
 
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letmetellyou

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It certainly seems that way, but I seriously have my doubts in this case. To me it seemed that there was a p#ss#ng contest (no pun intended) between him and his neighbors, and they complained about everything he did, and that the court had no choice but to label him as a sex offender due to the way the law was written. If this guy was wiggling his #### at the kids even to be spiteful, I would agree that he should be labeled, but I seriously don't believe that was the case...he was drunk and careless and did not know the kids were within view as I understand it, but he could not afford to fight the charge so he plead guilty without realizing he would have to register as a sex offender. 2 years later the police came to his door and told him he had to register as a sex offender, and he was shocked.

Well what's the guys name so we can look up the case for ourselves?
 
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