Billions being lost

[ImnoMensa]

Anti-Drilling Policies Costing Federal Government Billions in Lost Revenue | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News.

Not only are we losing billion's by not drilling we are sending billions out of the country to buy other people's oil.

Now evidently this makes sense to the Kenyan running things , but it looks damned stupid to most of the rest of us who do not have their nose's up his butt.

 

[aps45819]

Anticolonialism is the doctrine that rich countries of the West got rich by invading, occupying and looting poor countries of Asia, Africa and South America. As one of Obama’s acknowledged intellectual influences, Frantz Fanon, wrote in The Wretched of the Earth, “The well-being and progress of Europe have been built up with the sweat and the dead bodies of Negroes, Arabs, Indians and the yellow races.”

Obama's father was imprisioned by the British during their colonial rule of Kenya.
His autobiograpy is Dreams FROM my father

The anticolonial ideology of Barack Obama Sr. goes a long way to explain the actions and policies of his son in the Oval Office

 

[Larry Gude]

California is sitting on a giant piggy bank and refuses to use it. With a $45 billion deficit, or whatever it is, that's 1 billion barrels. Conservative estimates say there is probably 10 billion barrels. I over simplify, of course but, the point stands; there it is.

As heavy weight as Cali's congressional crew is and as much as they matter in presidential politics, nothing stands in their way to get that oil in play but will.

And common sense.

Clearly, they need to get their economic house in order first but, what's a piggy bank for? Sit their forever?

 

[GWguy]

California is sitting on a giant piggy bank and refuses to use it. With a $45 billion deficit, or whatever it is, that's 1 billion barrels. Conservative estimates say there is probably 10 billion barrels. I over simplify, of course but, the point stands; there it is.

As heavy weight as Cali's congressional crew is and as much as they matter in presidential politics, nothing stands in their way to get that oil in play but will.

And common sense.

Clearly, they need to get their economic house in order first but, what's a piggy bank for? Sit their forever?

This is the theory I subscribe to. My thought is that they will continue to sit on it until the 3rd world resources run dry. At that point, the US is in a position to call the shots and demand whatever price they want to anyone else who wants some, giving our allies a better deal.

However, I don't think this is going to work.

 

[Larry Gude]

This is the theory I subscribe to. My thought is that they will continue to sit on it until the 3rd world resources run dry. At that point, the US is in a position to call the shots and demand whatever price they want to anyone else who wants some, giving our allies a better deal.

However, I don't think this is going to work.

US, call the shots? We'll have to sign it over as collateral to the Chicoms long before anyone actually starts running out.

 

[Gilligan]

Working down here in the LA oil patch. I am astonished at the degree of animosity the folks around here now have toward Captain Zero. Derogatory posters and 'cartoons' in public reception areas..big hand-made signs outside businesses. Frankly, the mood against the Kenyan down here is downright ugly.

All anyone is hoping for now is that they can hang on long enough to get rid of him in 2012. I'm was thinking thqat this area (southern Louisiana) went heavily for Obama in 2008..but I need to go check that assumption.

 

[hvp05]

I'm was thinking thqat this area (southern Louisiana) went heavily for Obama in 2008..but I need to go check that assumption.

"Louisiana was won by Republican nominee John McCain by an 18.6% margin of victory." (Wiki) The Oblahma took Orleans County by 80%, but outside there he had only a handful of wins, leaving the majority of the state to go to McCain.

 

[Gilligan]

"Louisiana was won by Republican nominee John McCain by an 18.6% margin of victory." (Wiki) The Oblahma took Orleans County by 80%, but outside there he had only a handful of wins, leaving the majority of the state to go to McCain.

Thanks. Interesting. I'm about 90 miles west of Nawlins...so this would have been McCain country I guess. It sure isn't ever going to be Obama country..that's for sure.

The most stark reminder of how badly Obama has brought gulf oil operations to an almost total standstill are the huge fleets of rig supply boats stacked up in the bayous like cars in a Walmart parking lot. Just sitting..crews all laid off.

 

[Larry Gude]

It's pathetic that our left is looking for tax dollars off shore on dollars already EARNED, have already been produced, that can produce NOTHING but tax revenue, and have no interest in NEW dollars, to the tune of a billion PER DAY that would not only generate new tax dollars but many jobs and that revenue including housing, cars and so forth, and subsequent decreased military needs thus freeing billions more that they can utilize and so on and so forth.

This is INSANE.

 

[aps45819]

This is INSANE.

How do you view America?
A force for good in the world or a force for global domination and destruction. Do you believe that the West uses a disproportionate share of the world’s energy resources and so want America to have less and the former colonized countries to have more?

It doesn't matter where Obama was born, he's chosen to not be an American

 

[Larry Gude]

How do you view America?
A force for good in the world or a force for global domination and destruction. Do you believe that the West uses a disproportionate share of the world’s energy resources and so want America to have less and the former colonized countries to have more?

It doesn't matter where Obama was born, he's chosen to not be an American

I view us as suicidal and insane. Self destructive. Foolish.

We used to be a force for good simply by being Americans. However, it is one thing to be a beacon of light of freedom and opportunity. It is another when you set your own economy on fire and go off to impose freedom and liberty and then half ass the whole thing.

I believe this incessant attempt at pretending Obama is some sort of anomaly, something unusual, would be funny if it wasn't so importantly wrong. The GOP, by failing this nation on issue after issue, housing, energy, immigration, entitlements, etc, we cut the trail for Obama whereas he otherwise would have had no chance.

Why would people continue to support folks who argue for freedom, liberty, free markets, energy independence, entitlement reform, less government, etc, and then do the opposite, especially when the results have been so catastrophic? Why wouldn't the give the real socialists a chance?

We are only here because of the failures of the GOP. Bush did not fail by being conservative. Far from it. Had he lead as a conservative for 8 years, we would not be in the mess we're in and Barrack Obama would be working on his re-election to the Senate and trying to find someone interested in him as veep.

 

[Gilligan]

I view us as suicidal and insane. Self destructive. Foolish.

We used to be a force for good simply by being Americans. However, it is one thing to be a beacon of light of freedom and opportunity. It is another when you set your own economy on fire and go off to impose freedom and liberty and then half ass the whole thing.

I believe this incessant attempt at pretending Obama is some sort of anomaly, something unusual, would be funny if it wasn't so importantly wrong. The GOP, by failing this nation on issue after issue, housing, energy, immigration, entitlements, etc, we cut the trail for Obama whereas he otherwise would have had no chance.

Why would people continue to support folks who argue for freedom, liberty, free markets, energy independence, entitlement reform, less government, etc, and then do the opposite, especially when the results have been so catastrophic? Why wouldn't the give the real socialists a chance?

We are only here because of the failures of the GOP. Bush did not fail by being conservative. Far from it. Had he lead as a conservative for 8 years, we would not be in the mess we're in and Barrack Obama would be working on his re-election to the Senate and trying to find someone interested in him as veep.

I've seen you repeatedly state the above and I don't disagree with the sentiments. However, it seems to me that you always ignore or completely discount the fact that a very large segment of the country eagerly embraces the socialist/entitlement/big-government approach. That means that a 'quasi liberal' like GW Bush will receive some electoral support from the liberals and a full-blown lefty like Obama will recieve a lot more.

Your discussions seem to ignore that...as if a 'pure' conservative would somehow have, and retain, enough support to govern without any contribution from the left to election success. I hope that something along those lines does actually occurr..but I have my doubts at this point.

 

[Gilligan]

may b Y sum things r taken outside The Company 2 TCOB. :-? there is no We then!.

huh??

 

[Larry Gude]

I've seen you repeatedly state the above and I don't disagree with the sentiments. However, it seems to me that you always ignore or completely discount the fact that a very large segment of the country eagerly embraces the socialist/entitlement/big-government approach. That means that a 'quasi liberal' like GW Bush will receive some electoral support from the liberals and a full-blown lefty like Obama will recieve a lot more.

Your discussions seem to ignore that...as if a 'pure' conservative would somehow have, and retain, enough support to govern without any contribution from the left to election success. I hope that something along those lines does actually occurr..but I have my doubts at this point.

Forget 'pure' conservative. I'd settle for 'vaguely' these days!

Obama is a zero; resume, experience, you name it. So, what do we do? Send our RINO after him. So, people take the real Dem as opposed to the fake one, especially seeings how the GOP failed, miserably. Issue after issue.

Now, for Bush, he WON the election, twice. Like Obama, once you've won, you are free of what the voters think for awhile, especially if your party runs congress. So, what does Bush do?

Expand entitlements. Do nothing for energy. Ignores the impending housing collapse which he himself warned of in April '01. Nothing on illegal immigration. Two quagmire wars the UN would have been proud of, resurrecting the ghosts of Vietnam. We enrich our enemies with our oil money and strangle ourselves.

The nation rises up after 2 years of Obama and sends record numbers of GOP'ers to the House and IMMEDIATELY the GOP, before even taking power, spends some more when they could have written their own bill in a month.

It ain't the people. Look at the national uproar pretty much since Obama took office. The GOP is about the GOP, not the nation. At the very least, the Dems mean to do what they do.

The GOP will NOT change as long as we'll vote for the R and make excuses for what they do while arguing the Dems are just terrible. I mean, why would the GOP change? Where's the outrage over what Baynor and McConnell did? Ho hum. We won!

:shrug:

 

[Gilligan]

But I still wonder...could a 'true conservative' really be elected president? Was the fact that Bush was re-elected due to his 'less than conservative' approach to governing?

Rhetorical question, of course.

 

[Larry Gude]

But I still wonder...could a 'true conservative' really be elected president? Was the fact that Bush was re-elected due to his 'less than conservative' approach to governing?

Rhetorical question, of course.

Bush beat McCain by being more conservative in the primary. As per Nixon. He then governed, as per Nixon, to the left.

Bush beat Kerry because he couldn't help but be right of Kerry. Win, then govern back to the left. So, no, Bush won as the 'conservative'.

As to a 'true' conservative winning, it takes a lot; the persona and ability to win over enough of the GOP establishment on top of being a leper to the GOP, an actual conservative.

It would be nice, though. Presuming, of course, they actually governed to the right and that's what is so laughable about left wing criticism of Bush and conservatives; Bush is, simply based on policies, the most successful Democrat president since FDR. He was more left than Clinton, by miles and yet, conservatism gets hammered for the guy.

:shrug:

 

[ImnoMensa]

I view us as suicidal and insane. Self destructive. Foolish.

We used to be a force for good simply by being Americans. However, it is one thing to be a beacon of light of freedom and opportunity. It is another when you set your own economy on fire and go off to impose freedom and liberty and then half ass the whole thing.

I believe this incessant attempt at pretending Obama is some sort of anomaly, something unusual, would be funny if it wasn't so importantly wrong. The GOP, by failing this nation on issue after issue, housing, energy, immigration, entitlements, etc, we cut the trail for Obama whereas he otherwise would have had no chance.

Why would people continue to support folks who argue for freedom, liberty, free markets, energy independence, entitlement reform, less government, etc, and then do the opposite, especially when the results have been so catastrophic? Why wouldn't the give the real socialists a chance?

We are only here because of the failures of the GOP. Bush did not fail by being conservative. Far from it. Had he lead as a conservative for 8 years, we would not be in the mess we're in and Barrack Obama would be working on his re-election to the Senate and trying to find someone interested in him as veep.

Lets say for the point of argument that we mostly agree with everything you stated.. Bush was a crappy President who sent us to war with a halfassed notion of nation building. He spent too much, If he had led as a Conservative we wouldnt have been in the mess we were in 2 years ago.

Two years ago--------Two years ago.

Bush did not pass a budget killing Health care Bill and sign it.
Bush did not let the EPA take over our air.
Bush did not buy and sell GM.
Bush actually warned us about the housing crisis. You can argue he didnt do anything about it, and perhaps he didnt, but he did tell us ,and the Congress it was coming and the Congress passed on it and let it ride.
Bush didnt apologise and bow to every despot he met, and make us a laughing stock.
Bush did not put moratoriums on oil drilling and buy windmills from China.
Bush did not travel half the time Obama does and play golf the other half.

So let us give you your theory that Bush was a sorry SOB.

This Kenyan Character has pissed off most of our allies, Placed moratoriums on oil drilling, sworn to put the coal industry out of business, fellated every Union in the country,Copulated with the Muslims, and bent over and spread em,for Mexico and every illegal in the country.

Yes he followed Bush,Perhaps Bush laid the groundwork for some of this clowns mistakes, like Afghanistan, but certainly by now even you have to admit that this guy is head and shoulders beyond anything Bush did to hurt this country. When Bush was in the White House I at least felt there was an American in charge. An American who had served and loved our country.

A man more interested in governing than partying, flying all over the world and playing Basketball.

 

[Larry Gude]

...but certainly by now even you have to admit that this guy is head and shoulders beyond anything Bush did to hurt this country. When Bush was in the White House I at least felt there was an American in charge. An American who had served and loved our country.
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I've said this numerous times; I would much rather be punched in the face by my opponents than stabbed in the back by my 'friends'.

I never expected anything good from Obama. It goes without saying that I expected a good bit more out of Bush and the GOP given the power they had.

The analogies just keep on coming. If the wolf gets in the flock, do you blame him for doing what he does? Or, do you blame the shepherd? The well meaning, patriotic, country loving shepherd?

Bush gave us this mess. Issue after issue after issue. I'm heartbroken for the nation because I got what I hoped would happen, the GOP taking back the House and yet, Baynor, like Bush, well, it just isn't what the right is supposed to do and it sure as hell isn't what's needed for the nation.

 

[ImnoMensa]

I've said this numerous times; I would much rather be punched in the face by my opponents than stabbed in the back by my 'friends'.

I never expected anything good from Obama. It goes without saying that I expected a good bit more out of Bush and the GOP given the power they had.

The analogies just keep on coming. If the wolf gets in the flock, do you blame him for doing what he does? Or, do you blame the shepherd? The well meaning, patriotic, country loving shepherd?

Bush gave us this mess. Issue after issue after issue. I'm heartbroken for the nation because I got what I hoped would happen, the GOP taking back the House and yet, Baynor, like Bush, well, it just isn't what the right is supposed to do and it sure as hell isn't what's needed for the nation.

Wel it is obvious that you not only blame the shepherd, but will keep blaming him till hell freeze's over.

Bush did NOT give us this mess, no matter what he contributed, but you go ahead and enjoy your BDS. It keep you warm on cold nights.

 

[aps45819]

This Kenyan Character has sworn to put the coal industry out of business.

For the first time, the Environmental Protection Agency is revoking a permit already issued

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