For all you civil service types
- Thread starter jlabsher
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Yes, well, it would be interesting to compare the pay of enlisted military personnel vs. civil service, now wouldn't it?
2004 Civil Service Pay Scale - lowest ranking GS is $15,000 yr.
Military Active Duty Pay Scale - lowest ranking enlisted is $13,000 yr.
2004 Civil Service Pay Scale - lowest ranking GS is $15,000 yr.
Military Active Duty Pay Scale - lowest ranking enlisted is $13,000 yr.
With a linked source, no less.
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dems4me
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I agree with jbslasher - just about all my money goes to expenses that are freely given to the military. However, I'd rather pay for those than pay with my life if called upon - if that makes any sense.
For your information, military personnel DON'T get free meals once they're out of basic training. There is a cost to eat at the mess hall, at least there was when my ex-husband was in the Army.
You also don't get a free house. You get barracks or base housing if you have a family. Otherwise you get a housing allowance that usually isn't even remotely close to what you'll have to pay for rent.
You also don't get free clothing. You get a yearly uniform allowance.
The medical you get is comparable to what you'd get as a bennie at a decent corporation.
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dems4me
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No, I don't want the decision of my life to be in anyone else's hands but my own. If people want to put me in the line of fire because they feel the sky is red and not blue, then no I don't want to risk my life for something petty. I am and always have been a Christian first and an American second.
Pete
Repete
Makes perfect sense, you love to enjoy the fruits of others labor and sacrafice, thats what makes you a liberal. I understand. Actually you sound like a conservative there for a minute with all that "I want to let others make decisions for me, I want to do it myself" thing.
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dems4me
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Ughhh - not again
with you.People choose to be in the military, its an income and you get training and help with college funding and tuition. Some people go that route, others CHOOOSE not to. If people want to join the military - so be it if they don't so be it. It doesn't mean that one person or the other is a better person. I don't mind dying for a cause, but a futile war is not one of them. If we are attacked, say like 9/11 then most definately I'd like to fight to protect america - in the meantime, that was almost 4 years ago and we still don't have sadamm. some people spend their lives saving people such as rescue workers and other people in the medical profession. It does not mean they are a bad person because they didn't sign up for the armed services.
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dems4me
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oops I meant we don't have osama - not saddamm
Pete
Repete
True........BTW, if they had to instute a draft and you got drafted what road would you take to Canada? Route 1 through Maine or over through NY at Niagra?Originally posted by dems4me
Ughhh - not again
People choose to be in the military, its an income and you get training and help with college funding and tuition. Some people go that route, others CHOOOSE not to. If people want to join the military - so be it if they don't so be it. It doesn't mean that one person or the other is a better person. I don't mind dying for a cause, but a futile war is not one of them. If we are attacked, say like 9/11 then most definately I'd like to fight to protect america - in the meantime, that was almost 4 years ago and we still don't have sadamm. some people spend their lives saving people such as rescue workers and other people in the medical profession. It does not mean they are a bad person because they didn't sign up for the armed services.
jlabsher
Sorry about that chief.
Well in the "real" navy (ships you know) meals are free onboard the ship. If you are on shore duty (and Army, AF, & the rest) you get a monthly tax-free meals allowance in your paycheck, then you go to the chow hall to eat and pay for it. On the ship, you don't get that tax free allowance.
If you live in base housing (remember the spouse didn't come with the seabag sailor, getting married was your choice) the only bill you have is cable & telephone, keep the heat at 80 and the A/C at 60, run the lights all the time. If you live off base your BAH is tax-free, so if you're an E-1 (not many of them) that is $1020 @ month in pax or another $12.2K tax free a year.
For your meals you get $8.10 a day or $250 @ month, or about $3K a year tax free.
Medical, hmmm $250 a month average insurance. Another 3K a year.
That equals $18.2K a year tax free on those 3 benefits. At the 18% rate that equals about $21500 at the taxable rate. So the poor married E-1 who earns $13 K actually gets about $34500.
If you live in base housing (remember the spouse didn't come with the seabag sailor, getting married was your choice) the only bill you have is cable & telephone, keep the heat at 80 and the A/C at 60, run the lights all the time. If you live off base your BAH is tax-free, so if you're an E-1 (not many of them) that is $1020 @ month in pax or another $12.2K tax free a year.
For your meals you get $8.10 a day or $250 @ month, or about $3K a year tax free.
Medical, hmmm $250 a month average insurance. Another 3K a year.
That equals $18.2K a year tax free on those 3 benefits. At the 18% rate that equals about $21500 at the taxable rate. So the poor married E-1 who earns $13 K actually gets about $34500.