Well said, Wayne...

[Larry Gude]

NRA blames media, music and more for culture of violence - NBC Politics

“I call on Congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation,” he said.

He said that laws that established gun-free school zones have had the effect of telling “every insane killer in America that schools are the safest place to inflict maximum mayhem with minimum risk.”

LaPierre said America has left its schoolchildren “utterly defenseless -- and the monsters and the predators of the world know it and exploit it.”

Now, to renew my membership...

 

[Gilligan]

Life Member here. All paid up for ...well, who knows?

 

[Larry Gude]

Life Member here. All paid up for ...well, who knows?

Bad move. No leverage, no carrot, no stick.

I just gave them a pat on the back for standing up. Something I could not do were I a life member. I gave them a two year reward for representing my views. And defending them.

 

[Gilligan]

Bad move. No leverage, no carrot, no stick.

What can I say..it was a Christmas present.

 

[Larry Gude]

What can I say..it was a Christmas present.

Oh, so you don't even really care, eh?

 

[FreedomFan]

NRA blames media, music and more for culture of violence - NBC Politics



Now, to renew my membership...

NRA member here, but what a terrible idea. Yet more conditioning to make sure our kids of today are used to a complete police and surveillance state by the time they make it to adulthood. By then they won't question what our nation has become. They will just be zombies and wards of a totalitarian state.

Very, very disappointed in this response.

 

[aps45819]

Teachers should be allowed ccw

 

[FreedomFan]

Teachers should be allowed ccw

Yes. Much better idea than what the NRA has proffered.

 

[aps45819]

Yes. Much better idea than what the NRA has proffered.

I think that was why LaPierre suggested police in school. When the expense of posting police in schools is examined, ccw for the people already there becomes an inexpensive alternative. Of course you'll still have to pass state laws overcoming the federal gun free zone insanity

There are currently a LOT of schools that already have armed police officers

 

[FreedomFan]

There are currently a LOT of schools that already have armed police officers

I know, but that doesn't make the NRA suggestion anymore palatable to me.

It's all part of the plan to get kids used to 24 hour a day surveillance and monitoring.

 

[Baja28]

I know, but that doesn't make the NRA suggestion anymore palatable to me.

It's all part of the plan to get kids used to 24 hour a day surveillance and monitoring.

Check out DC as an example. 10 years or so ago, DC was the murder capital of the world. Now they are rank near the bottom. That is because they started with the kids 10 years ago, educating them about violence.

 

[Gilligan]

It's all part of the plan to get kids used to 24 hour a day surveillance and monitoring.

Inorite? Where does it stop? Armed security and 24-hour surveillance of courthouses?..banks?..government buildings..SMC high schools?.

Slippery slope, a'ight.

Oh..wait...

 

[FreedomFan]

Inorite? Where does it stop? Armed security and 24-hour surveillance of courthouses?..banks?..government buildings..SMC high schools?.

Slippery slope, a'ight.

Oh..wait...

Anything to keep us safe from evil. ANYTHING.

I trust my government to know best.

/sarcasm

 

[Larry Gude]

NRA member here, but what a terrible idea. Yet more conditioning to make sure our kids of today are used to a complete police and surveillance state by the time they make it to adulthood. By then they won't question what our nation has become. They will just be zombies and wards of a totalitarian state.

Very, very disappointed in this response.

Sorry to hear it. I thought it was direct, solution oriented, practical solution oriented, and productive. No 'well, let's form a commission and study this and see what the most PC to say thing is..."

I don't think a 'good guy' with a gun at a school is a threat to kids or their sense of liberty. It makes a whole hell of a lot more sense than yet another piece of paper being signed into to law to 'protect' them.

Sorry to hear it.

 

[JoeRider]

Sorry to hear it. I thought it was direct, solution oriented, practical solution oriented, and productive. No 'well, let's form a commission and study this and see what the most PC to say thing is..."

I don't think a 'good guy' with a gun at a school is a threat to kids or their sense of liberty. It makes a whole hell of a lot more sense than yet another piece of paper being signed into to law to 'protect' them.

Sorry to hear it.

I think the NRA is pandering to the left. Everyone is losing their spines. It is the Constitution we are talking about here. If Larry Flint can do what he did with the 1st Amend. then why can't the NRA put the hammer down.

I think it feeds into the liberals governmental control issue and socialist positioning. Welcome to one step closer to a police state.

 

[FreedomFan]

Sorry to hear it. I thought it was direct, solution oriented, practical solution oriented, and productive. No 'well, let's form a commission and study this and see what the most PC to say thing is..."

I don't think a 'good guy' with a gun at a school is a threat to kids or their sense of liberty. It makes a whole hell of a lot more sense than yet another piece of paper being signed into to law to 'protect' them.

Sorry to hear it.

For the record, I don't believe "yet another piece of paper being signed into law" is the correct response either.

I'm not convinced we need to do anything at all.

 

[Larry Gude]

For the record, I don't believe "yet another piece of paper being signed into law" is the correct response either.

I'm not convinced we need to do anything at all.

OK, but, if it is my job to represent, to defend and promote the right to keep and bear arms and I just had the fealty to stand in front of my critiques, people who despise what I stand for, the right to keep and bear arms, who all believe, somehow, guns shouldn't even exist, and I have the guts to tell them like it is, the ONLY thing that could have stopped this is a good man with a gun, that a practical solution would be to GUARD that which we all agree is worth protecting, then, I think I've done my job and done it very well.

Wayne didn't bend, didn't give any ground and rightly so. In my view. He STOOD up. In my view.

And I applaud him, standing ovation.

 

[Larry Gude]

I think the NRA is pandering to the left. Everyone is losing their spines. .

We disagree. I heard NO pandering. Their visceral reaction to his proposal, armed men in every school, their seething at his telling them like it is, not even giving a nod to their Utopian, childish fantasies of a gun free world, man, that wasn't PC. That wasn't pandering. His 'we find money for every stupid idea under the sun, we can damnsure find some dough to protect kids in school" hit them right where they live; the purpose of government.

Again, I applaud his comments.