It Can Happen Here

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
It Can Happen Here


I ended my prognostications with the warning, “And so a reckoning is on the near horizon. Let us pray it does not take us all down with his administration.”

Four months later, it almost has.

In January, of course, we all knew that Obama had misled the country on the nature of the disaster that is called Obamacare—a bill forced through on an entirely partisan basis through extraordinary legislative pay-offs and exemptions. The author of the bill, Sen. Max Baucus, dubbed it a “train wreck”; the speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi (who helped ram through the bill), claimed that we needed to pass the bill to find out what is in it.

Obama’s first-term methodology was in line with his history of dissimulation—promising to accept public campaign financing before becoming the first presidential candidate in the general election to refuse it; demagoguing the Bush-Cheney anti-terrorism protocols as a senator as useless or unlawful (e.g., Guantanamo as “al-Qaeda’s chief recruiting tool”), only to embrace or expand them all once he became president; and stoking racial animosity by weighing in during the Professor Henry Louis Gates psychodrama and the Trayvon Martin murder case, and asking La Raza activists “to punish our enemies.” The president had a strange habit, like a moth to a flame, of demagoguing the wealthy as toxic (spread the wealth, pay your fair share, fat cat, you didn’t build that, etc.), while being attracted to the very lifestyle that he damns, a sort of Martha’s Vineyard community organizer. Sometime in 2009, $250,000 in annual income became the dividing line between “us” and “them.” When we hear the president remind us that he is not a tyrant or monarch, then we assume he laments that fact; “make no mistake about it” ensures that you should believe that the president is not being “perfectly clear.”

Of course, in January I did not know yet that the IRS had targeted conservatives, in partisan fashion, to deflate their activism by denying their organizations pre-election tax-exempt status. (Do we now suspect why Harry Reid claimed that he knew the tax records of Mitt Romney, or why Austan Goolsbee popped off about the tax records of the Koch brothers, or how ProPublica had access to confidential tax information about Crossroads GPS [compare the ProPublica boast on their website: “Now, for the first time, ProPublica has obtained the group's application for recognition of tax-exempt status, filed in September 2010. The IRS has not yet recognized Crossroads GPS as exempt, causing some tax experts to speculate that the agency is giving the application extra scrutiny”]?)
 

tommyjo

New Member
It Can Happen Here


Of course, in January I did not know yet that the IRS had targeted conservatives, in partisan fashion, to deflate their activism by denying their organizations pre-election tax-exempt status. QUOTE]

Oh the horror!!

For conservatives had no other place in which to turn...no other organizations could accept the donations of conservatives...there was not a single active conservative organization that was tax exempt...except that's not true now is it?

For conservatives were locked up, thrown in jail, tortured, their property seized, their families put into hard labor camps...except that's not what happened is it?

That fact that some organizations had their tax exempt status delayed is wrong.

To characterize this as some sort of human atrocity...is ridiculous.

BTW for all the morons out there who continually use the word tyranny to describe this country (that includes the morons who use the word tyranny in their moniker)...HERE is what tyranny is...

North Korean prisoner escaped after 23 brutal years - CBS News
 

Lurk

Happy Creepy Ass Cracka
BTW for all the morons out there who continually use the word tyranny to describe this country (that includes the morons who use the word tyranny in their moniker)...HERE is what tyranny is...

Tyranny is escape from a totalitarian regime? Peace is War? War is Peace? Poor is Rich? Rich is Poor?

Have you ever considered Disulfiram?
 

blazinlow89

Big Poppa
That fact that some organizations had their tax exempt status delayed is wrong.

To characterize this as some sort of human atrocity...is ridiculous.

BTW for all the morons out there who continually use the word tyranny to describe this country (that includes the morons who use the word tyranny in their moniker)...HERE is what tyranny is...

North Korean prisoner escaped after 23 brutal years - CBS News

Yet are you fine with Obama's brothers organization getting its tax tax exempt status not only in record time, but back dated 3 years. Or is this just a presidential perk.

Why do you hippies constantly compare US to third world countries. We are a developed nation, with laws, supposedly fair political system and are advanced in many ways. For US the current administration is tyrannical compared to others. While you are correct that we have it much better, we should not have to degrade our way of living because another country has #### for leadership.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
That fact that some organizations had their tax exempt status delayed is wrong.

What about the specific targeting for political reasons? Is that wrong?

What about spying on the press, the AP story, the going after this FOX reporter? Hacking reporters computers? Are they, also, wrong?

If so, wrong how, why? Wrong as in clerical error wrong? Or wrong as in abuse of government power not for the common good but for individual gain? To win re-election? To help pass legislation or save it?

That, my dear, is tyranny. No, it does not approach Korea, at all, any more than a stream is the ocean. However, streams lead to oceans and, while you can't drown the entire population in a stream, you sure as hell can drown singled out individuals in one.

You are a god damn fool if you don't see this.

If it makes you feel any better, I was a god damn fool when Bush was building this mess for people like Obama to abuse. The DHS, the Patriot Act. By definition, the more power and authority the government has, the less freedom we, the people have.

Are we safer? Sure. But, is that the goal, the land of the standing in line to be searched, the home of the safe?

This isn't a partisan issue. Abusive people like Obama come in all colors and party affiliations and are nothing new under this sun. The Bill of Rights was designed a long time ago to limit them. We let this stuff go on at our peril and, yeah, we could become North Korea. I don't think it likely but, if we do, it will be because we let people like Obama, and Bush, do what we've let them do to our laws, not because we stood up and said "No!"
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
We let this stuff go on at our peril and, yeah, we could become North Korea.

Apparently this stuff is perfectly fine, so long as it doesn't rise to the brutality of the world's most oppressive regime. You know, kind of like saying rape is ok, because at least you lived.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Apparently this stuff is perfectly fine, so long as it doesn't rise to the brutality of the world's most oppressive regime. You know, kind of like saying rape is ok, because at least you lived.

...at which point it is a tad too late, yeah?

:lol:
 
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