Why Jesus Became God: A Response to Bart Ehrman
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onel0126
Bead mumbler
Sure. Ehrman is just another former believer who became "enlightened" and is now no longer a "blind sheep." Evidence-based scholar who is now "smarter" than everyone else. Nothing groundbreaking just an interesting take from one of the few Jesuits whose opinion I value.
ProximaCentauri
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Afraid of the light? If it is the nature of ‘religious man’ you are talking about, whose desire it is to live in darkness instead of light, then I could not agree more.
It is only ‘men of faith’ who kill in the name of God and when they aren’t killing men of an opposing religion, they are killing men of the same religion who happen to be in the ‘wrong’ sect. Men of faith do unspeakable horrors to their fellow men… torture, murder, pedophilia, sodomy, rape, hatred, bigotry, genocide, slavery,…the list goes on and on. This is the true legacy of ‘faith’. Not exactly what I would call ‘living in the light’.
'Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.'
- Blaise Pascal
Your first sentence. My thought was that those that reject God are living in darkness because they choose to not have His light in them. If one outwardly appears to follow God, but inwardly does not, they are living in darkness as well.
No argument against your statement at all about the "religious" that kill and destroy in the name of their god.
StoneThrower
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This is Heresy, Jesus has always been God and to deny that is to deny the trinity. Anyone that doesnt believe in the trinty is NOT a Christian! Ehrman
is a heretic.
is a heretic.
Radiant1
Soul Probe
Not sure how I missed this, but going to respond late anyway...
That's true enough I suppose, but the same could be said for men of secular ideologies. So, allow me to re-phrase your statement above and it will be no less true.
It is only men of secular ideology who kill in the name of secularism and when they aren’t killing men of an opposing secular ideology, they are killing men of the same ideology who happen to be in the wrong sect. Men of secular idealism do unspeakable horrors to their fellow men… torture, murder, pedophilia, sodomy, rape, hatred, bigotry, genocide, slavery,…the list goes on and on. This is the true legacy of secular ideology. Not exactly what I would call living enlightened.
I don't recall the thread, but there was one past where someone made the ignorant blanket statement that more people have died in the name of religion than anything. I dug up the stats proving that false. That's not to say that religion hasn't done it's share, it has, but that old tired adage that religion blah blah is just that, old and tired.
Unfortunately, killing in the name of :insert anything here: just seems to be a human thing that supersedes religion and/or secular ideology.
That's true enough I suppose, but the same could be said for men of secular ideologies. So, allow me to re-phrase your statement above and it will be no less true.
It is only men of secular ideology who kill in the name of secularism and when they aren’t killing men of an opposing secular ideology, they are killing men of the same ideology who happen to be in the wrong sect. Men of secular idealism do unspeakable horrors to their fellow men… torture, murder, pedophilia, sodomy, rape, hatred, bigotry, genocide, slavery,…the list goes on and on. This is the true legacy of secular ideology. Not exactly what I would call living enlightened.
I don't recall the thread, but there was one past where someone made the ignorant blanket statement that more people have died in the name of religion than anything. I dug up the stats proving that false. That's not to say that religion hasn't done it's share, it has, but that old tired adage that religion blah blah is just that, old and tired.
Unfortunately, killing in the name of :insert anything here: just seems to be a human thing that supersedes religion and/or secular ideology.
Ehrlman is heresy. The Trinity has always existed, and will always exist. Three separate personages - but always one at the same time - consistently. That is the hope of Christianity.
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Zguy28
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Actually, its not even that. Ehrman is an unbeliever. He's not even a Christian.