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"A UH-1Y Huey helicopter flies U.S. service members across the horizon near Marine Corps Air Station Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii, during a special patrol insertion and extraction rigging exercise, on May 13, 2014. The exercise was conducted as part of the Helicopter Rope Suspension Training Master's Course, a 10-day course to train U.S. service members to land on the ground quickly in situations where aircraft may have difficulty landing. (USMC/Lance Cpl. Matthew Bragg)"
 

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Monello

Monello

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Hueys are 50+ years old. I'm surprised they are still being utilized. The Blackhawk seems a better fit for the insertion/extraction mission.
 
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GW8345

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Monello said:
Hueys are 50+ years old. I'm surprised they are still being utilized. The Blackhawk seems a better fit for the insertion/extraction mission.
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That is the new UH-1Y, it's only been in the fleet for about 3 to 4 years.
 
Monello

Monello

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The military certainly has some exhilarating challenges for its' service members. 1 of my favorites was the helo dunker. Imagine a giant coffee can suspended by cables. It was dropped in a swimming pool and the operator could rotate the dunker either left or right. Most times we ended upside down. The goal was to remove your seatbelt and shoulder straps then head out 1 of the exits. To increase the challenge we wore black out goggles to simulate total darkness. The dunker was 1 evolution that some came to love and others came to dread. I'm sure being suspended in the air on a rope or cable is just as adrenalizing.

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DoWhat

DoWhat

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Monello said:
The military certainly has some exhilarating challenges for its' service members. 1 of my favorites was the helo dunker. Imagine a giant coffee can suspended by cables. It was dropped in a swimming pool and the operator could rotate the dunker either left or right. Most times we ended upside down. The goal was to remove your seatbelt and shoulder straps then head out 1 of the exits. To increase the challenge we wore black out goggles to simulate total darkness. The dunker was 1 evolution that some came to love and others came to dread.
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And the divers in the water grabbing your legs and holding you under when you are trying to get out.
I kicked the $hit out of that F'er.
 
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czygvtwkr

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Monello said:
Hueys are 50+ years old. I'm surprised they are still being utilized. The Blackhawk seems a better fit for the insertion/extraction mission.
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Depends, the Huey is quite a bit smaller and lighter, now they have four blades the performance has increased significantly. They are also quite a bit simpler.
 
b23hqb

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czygvtwkr said:
Depends, the Huey is quite a bit smaller and lighter, now they have four blades the performance has increased significantly. They are also quite a bit simpler.
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Depends. Why mess with a platform that has performed admirably for 50 years? Oh - politics and manufacturing districting supersedes the troops.

Who would have thunk it?

Does the A-10 ring a bell?
 
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czygvtwkr

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b23hqb said:
Depends. Why mess with a platform that has performed admirably for 50 years? Oh - politics and manufacturing districting supersedes the troops.

Who would have thunk it?

Does the A-10 ring a bell?
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During those 50 years there had been quite a few significant changes to the UH-1 including moving from a single engine to a twin engine power plant.
 
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GW8345

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b23hqb said:
Depends. Why mess with a platform that has performed admirably for 50 years? Oh - politics and manufacturing districting supersedes the troops.

Who would have thunk it?

Does the A-10 ring a bell?
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Um, the A-10 has received numerous upgrades during it's service, it's not the same aircraft it was 30 years ago.

So what you are saying is that if a platform is performing fine there's not reason to upgrade it or introduce a new platform, we should still be using F-4's, A-7's, A-6's, etc.
 
Tito

Tito

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GW8345 said:
Um, the A-10 has received numerous upgrades during it's service, it's not the same aircraft it was 30 years ago.

So what you are saying is that if a platform is performing fine there's not reason to upgrade it or introduce a new platform, we should still be using F-4's, A-7's, A-6's, etc.
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I question this. Link?
 
GURPS

GURPS

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GW8345 said:
Um, the A-10 has received numerous upgrades during it's service, it's not the same aircraft it was 30 years ago.
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IMHO the point is, you cannot replace the slow agile A-10C with a fast mover like the F-35 ....

the Chair Force has been trying to get rid of the A-10 since I was in the Army in the 80's - back then it was - the F-16 or 15 can do the same job BETTER !!!!
 
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