SEATTLE’S MINIMUM WAGE CRASH: $15 to ZERO! Profits Tumble!

[GURPS]

SEATTLE’S MINIMUM WAGE CRASH: $15 to ZERO! Profits Tumble!



According to the National Review Hotline, Kathrina Tugadi owner of Seattle’s El Norte Lounge, no longer hires musicians for her restaurant, she said she can’t justify expenses that don’t directly “add to the bottom line.” And, she says, hours will have to be cut: El Norte Lounge plans to stop serving lunch and only serve dinner.

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Socialist Council-member Kshama Sawant was the main proponent of the $15 ordinance. She and her supporters denied that the policy change would hurt businesses in the city. In one interview, Sawant said there need be “no unintended consequences.”

She went on to state that “any additional costs could come out of ‘extravagant profits’ rather than consumers pockets.” You have got to be kidding me . . . squared! Extravagant profits? Tell that to all the entrepreneurs out there who are trying desperately to make ends meet. Explain that to the mortgage companies they are trying to pay. And please pass that on to those on the street who’s job no longer exists. And, by the way:

 

[GURPS]

McDonald’s is About to Destroy the Minimum Wage



The end of the era of Minimum Wage may soon be at hand. McDonald’s has begun experimenting with automated cashiers as a way to eliminate some of the staff that would be necessary to run their restaurants.

If the news (being reported from several sources) is accurate, this could essentially end the debate over the minimum wage, as most minimum wage owners work in the fast food industry. A user on Reddit is reporting that McDonald’s has begun testing the automated cashiers at their store in Romeoville, Illinois.

“I believe this store is in Romeoville, IL. It's next door to their Innovation Center. This McDonald’s is actually pretty unique. First of all it’s owned by McDonald’s, it’s not a franchise. Second, this is the store where McDonald’s tests all the new technology. New griddle? It gets tested here first. New ordering monitors, new deep fryer, all tested here first. If it doesn’t work here, they don’t offer it to their franchisees. They test everything in this store for YEARS before it gets mass produced so they’re sure it works well and is cost-effective.

I used to work for a McDonald’s supplier and we took a tour of their Innovation Center (which is right behind this store) and it included a tour of this store. They were experimenting with all sorts of cool things; they were pumping fragrances in the entrance foyer (the little area between the two entrance doors) to make you more hungry and the ordering monitors were there (this was about two years ago).
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[Monello]

Sheets & WaWa already use automated ordering kiosks. The technology already exists. Soon other fast food establishments will follow suit. Time to learn how to service automated kiosks.

 

[GURPS]

Sheets & WaWa already use automated ordering kiosks. The technology already exists. Soon other fast food establishments will follow suit. Time to learn how to service automated kiosks.

 

[Larry Gude]

Player Piano

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Sheets & WaWa already use automated ordering kiosks. The technology already exists. Soon other fast food establishments will follow suit. Time to learn how to service automated kiosks.

And they are great, you don't have to wait on some moron to take your order, you see every option available etc.

 

[jrt_ms1995]

Player Piano

Good reference, Larry.

 

[Larry Gude]

Good reference, Larry.

It's terrifying, really. I'm reading it right now and it's just awful where we are. We want productivity beyond imagination so, more and more qualified, capable people lose jobs to productivity gains. We've let the barn door open so illegals who can't even speak the language, never mind the culture and fabric of America, gobble up low skill jobs and are now climbing the ladder, displacing even more American's. The rich are stunningly rich, the poor are idle BUT, unlike the book, have NO skills and the displaced American is not the highly skilled yet no longer needed mechanic of the book. They're just a bunch of people who, at best, can operate the machines that put so many out of work. We are in a post Player Piano age where we simply don't have skilled people anymore, idle or otherwise. No one can work on a car unless a computer is hooked up to it. No one can work tools anymore. We don't make things that can be fixed or worked on anymore, machine or by hand.

We watch movies that are computer images. We're a ####ing mess. And we are WEAK.

 

[Larry Gude]

And they are great, you don't have to wait on some moron to take your order, you see every option available etc.

But, isn't that moron in the back slapping the mayo, building your sammitch????

 

[PeoplesElbow]

But, isn't that moron in the back slapping the mayo, building your sammitch????

But I don't have to wait for them to get off their cell phone, quit talking to someone else, picking their nose etc.

One time at McDonalds I had a cashier double charge me and claim the extra was tax, when I called her on it she said "Im not good at math", another time at BK the cashier put in that I gave her a $5 but I had a $10 in my hand, she got out a calculator, after about two minutes she came up with an amount of change to give me and it was more than $10.....

 

[PeoplesElbow]

People hold Costco up as a model, the thing is Costco doesn't just hire anyone and expect more out of their employees that say Walmart. I know a Walmart manager and she told me that it is a well known fact that Costco will not hire anyone from Walmart due to bad experiences.

 

[Larry Gude]

People hold Costco up as a model, the thing is Costco doesn't just hire anyone and expect more out of their employees that say Walmart. I know a Walmart manager and she told me that it is a well known fact that Costco will not hire anyone from Walmart due to bad experiences.

Racism. Pure and simple.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Racism. Pure and simple.

LOL, 96% of the population there is white.

 

[Larry Gude]

LOL, 96% of the population there is white.

See??????

 

[LibertyBeacon]

Sheets & WaWa already use automated ordering kiosks. The technology already exists. Soon other fast food establishments will follow suit. Time to learn how to service automated kiosks.

Yea, these stories about new tech taking jobs away never pan out, do they? New tech sprouts industries around it.

The real discussion here is not about the loss of jobs, but it is about the government getting in the way of a voluntary employment arrangement between a private company and a private individual.

I a person is willing to work for less than minimum wage, what is the interest of the government in telling them they cannot?

It's odd, some people I've talked with reflexively somehow know that $15 minimum wage is preposterous. Yet, when you suggest there should not be any minimum wage at all, they find that notion equally preposterous.

I'd rather there not be any minimum wage at any level of government. But in our system of government, at least, this should be a bottom up thing; that is no federal or state mandated minimum wage laws.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Yea, these stories about new tech taking jobs away never pan out, do they? New tech sprouts industries around it.

The real discussion here is not about the loss of jobs, but it is about the government getting in the way of a voluntary employment arrangement between a private company and a private individual.

I a person is willing to work for less than minimum wage, what is the interest of the government in telling them they cannot?

It's odd, some people I've talked with reflexively somehow know that $15 minimum wage is preposterous. Yet, when you suggest there should not be any minimum wage at all, they find that notion equally preposterous.

I'd rather there not be any minimum wage at any level of government. But in our system of government, at least, this should be a bottom up thing; that is no federal or state mandated minimum wage laws.

In a perfect world yes, but there are quite a few of those people in min wage jobs that are easily taken advantage of. I went to high school with a guy that by all definitions is retarded, he works at a local motel cleaning rooms. I bet they would be able tell him that he had to pay for the cleaning supplies to the point that he actually paid to work there and he would do it if he could.

 

[LibertyBeacon]

In a perfect world yes, but there are quite a few of those people in min wage jobs that are easily taken advantage of. I went to high school with a guy that by all definitions is retarded, he works at a local motel cleaning rooms. I bet they would be able tell him that he had to pay for the cleaning supplies to the point that he actually paid to work there and he would do it if he could.

That doesn't sound very voluntary to me. That's the first problem with that scenario.

 

[LibertyBeacon]

With all due respect to the retarded, they probably should not be working if they really aren't capable. Employment for the sake of employment seems silly to me. It's a feel-good, but that's about it.

I'd rather these people be put away in hospitals like they were back in the day and you didn't have to see them as you went about your life.

 

[officeguy]

If I was the developmentally disabled guy bagging groceries, I would really worry about a $15 wage law.

 

[Larry Gude]

I'd rather these people be put away in hospitals like they were back in the day and you didn't have to see them as you went about your life.

What a vulgar thing to say. They get something to do, actually be a functioning human being to some extent and you don't even want to see them? I'm kinda shocked you said that.