The Real Dakota Access Pipeline Victim Is the Construction Company

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
The Real Dakota Access Pipeline Victim Is the Construction Company



But then the Obama administration, as it is wont to do, flouted the law. Only minutes after the district court announced that construction could proceed, the Department of Justice, Department of the Army, and Department of the Interior issued a joint statement announcing that the federal agencies will halt any additional permitting and reconsider its past permits of the project. Simply put, President Obama unilaterally spiked the project.

As I explained here, this is a gross injustice. Time is money for capital-intensive infrastructure projects like the Dakota Access Pipeline. The company behind the project went to great lengths to comply with all applicable federal statutes so that it could achieve authorization to build on the 1% of the pipeline subject to federal jurisdiction. The fruits of these efforts were a permit or property right. The company’s right to build were subsequently (albeit preliminarily) vindicated in court. And then the President simply overturned the court’s order, and now the administration is stalling. Each day of construction lost costs the company money.

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It wasn’t just the Army Corps of Engineers with whom the tribe refused to play ball. According to reporting by GreenWire, the Standing Sioux were invited to three public hearings held by state regulators in North Dakota. The tribe was a no-show at each one.

The fact of the matter is that the Standing Rock Sioux refused to cooperate with the federal government for two years, despite the best efforts of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. The tribe only got involved to any serious extent at the tail end of the process, at which point they demanded that the Army Corps of Engineers review possible impact of the whole pipeline. But this is impossible because the federal government only has jurisdiction over 1% of the pipeline!

Therefore, Robert Fool Bear Sr. is absolutely right. “More than two years ago, when members of the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe could have attended hearings to make their concerns known, they didn’t care.”

Despite the tribe’s refusal to act in good faith, both the company and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers went to great lengths to accommodate the tribe’s interests. Indeed, the company labored to devise a route to account for and avoid sites that had been identified as potentially eligible for or listed on the National Register of Historic Places. Moreover, the company bought rights to a 400-foot corridor along preliminary route to conduct cultural surveys by professionally licensed archeologists, who inventoried, delineated, & assessed historic sites. Thus, the company identified 91 stone features of religious significance to Native Americans; the pipeline was rerouted around all of them.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
The legally correct and fair thing to do is to stand with the company and the banks. They have profits at risk. There are uncountable other crossings, this is far safer than rail roading the oil.

The morally correct thing to do is stand with our fellow human beings. Stopping this doesn't change a thing for oil overall. It just changes the individual winners and losers in the venture.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
The morally correct thing to do is stand with our fellow human beings. .

But there's the rub. The majority of those "human beings" are paid shills and outside agitators that could, in reality, give two craps about the issue, or are possessed of the tiny minds that seem to characterize similar nonsensical "movements" and demonstrations; the Occupy nonsense comes to mind...

There is precious little in way of any legitimate moral issues in that Dakota Pipeline mess. Blow 'em the hell out of the way and lay pipe.
 
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GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
The morally correct thing to do is stand with our fellow human beings.



the problem is the HUMAN Beings Running the Tribe
...... they repeatedly blew off meeting after meeting, after meeting
.... now they are trying to get paid to go away
 

glhs837

Power with Control
The legally correct and fair thing to do is to stand with the company and the banks. They have profits at risk. There are uncountable other crossings, this is far safer than rail roading the oil.

The morally correct thing to do is stand with our fellow human beings. Stopping this doesn't change a thing for oil overall. It just changes the individual winners and losers in the venture.

Ah, not so much. In this case, I think the moral and legal coincide. These people had every chance in the world to participate in the process and chose not to. This isn't Arthur Dent we are talking about here.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
And now the poor darlings are suffering in a blizzard. And have apparently run out of gas locally too. Bwa ha ha ha haa.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
And now the poor darlings are suffering in a blizzard. And have apparently run out of gas locally too. Bwa ha ha ha haa.

for a short time after that NY semi-pro protestor blew half the meat on her arm off with an IED, the cops were going to block all propane into the protest site, but then they backed of. I suppose it went like "Well, if the dumbazzes blow themselves up, they have themselves to blame. If they freeze to death, they can blame us. "

Oh, and stand by for your news feed and FB feed to get swamped with endless trail of tears reference.
 
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SamSpade

Well-Known Member
Ah, not so much. In this case, I think the moral and legal coincide. These people had every chance in the world to participate in the process and chose not to. This isn't Arthur Dent we are talking about here.

"Some factual information for you. Have you any idea how much damage that bulldozer would suffer if I just let it roll straight over you?"
"How much?" said Arthur.
"None at all," said Mr. Prosser.
 
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