Don’t get distracted. Trump and Republicans are set to inflict radical, disruptive change.

nhboy

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" Will Donald Trump really go through with all of it?

It’s worth stepping back and looking at the big picture for a moment. While we are arguing over 1,000 jobs saved at Carrier and obsessing over a verbal scuffle between Trump and Hillary Clinton aides over what really happened in the campaign, Trump and Republicans may soon be going forward with an agenda that could inflict radical, disruptive change on millions of people.

Consider just a portion of what lies ahead:

1) Millions are set to lose health insurance. CNN reports this morning that Republicans are coalescing around a strategy that would repeal Obamacare at the outset but delay the full impact of it, on the gamble that Democrats will help them replace it later. Whether or not that will actually happen, the move underscores that Republicans themselves are discovering how hard it will be to replace Obamacare with something that accomplishes roughly the same things — or at least enough of them to keep their proposal from looking too radical — without all the things they hate about it. Yet they are likely to go through with repeal anyway.

Trump vowed to repeal Obamacare and won the election, so it’s hardly surprising that this is happening. Yet there are zero indications that Trump himself understands the fundamental dilemma here, which is that Republicans are mostly in policy fantasy-land on this issue. There is no obvious way to repeal all the things Republicans hate about Obamacare while replacing it with the “terrific” things Trump has said he wants (protections for people with preexisting conditions, health care for everybody). Everything he has said indicates he thinks this will be easy.

It’s possible Republicans will get cold feet, obviously, particularly since a number of GOP legislators now come from states that have expanded Medicaid, meaning they’ll now have to vote to actually kick untold numbers off health coverage. But it’s also possible that repeal will go forward, and then a replacement will miraculously fail to materialize. "

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/12/02/dont-get-distracted-trump-and-republicans-are-set-to-inflict-radical-disruptive-change/?utm_term=.9c95b5e8d24c
 

GregV814

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lets see, its friday, just like Monday Tuesday wednesday...you get the picture and NHBoy is providing us with his insecurities again....hey boy, take a day off, you lost...go stand in the corner and cry...
 

SamSpade

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Obamacare is getting a mercy killing - it is already near death. Most conservatives are a little alarmed at hearing Trump talk like a Democrat when it comes to Obamacare, but current plans appear to allow it to die, change it and implement changes over the next 3-4 years. Without people losing anything.

Generally when I read Paul Krugman declare the end of the world on something, I can bet on the opposite.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Distracted? The national leader of the d party just got retained in power after overseeing 6 years of the party being neutered nationwide.

Distracted?
 

Rommey

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* AND OBAMACARE REPEAL WILL HURT LOTS OF TRUMP VOTERS: Paul Krugman looks at the census data from 2013-2015 to try to estimate the impact of Obamacare repeal on people who voted for Trump:

Over that period, the number of uninsured Americans dropped by 13 million; whites without a college degree, who voted Trump by around two to one, accounted for about eight million of that decline. So we’re probably looking at more than five million Trump supporters, many of whom have chronic health problems and recently got health insurance for the first time, who just voted to make their lives nastier, more brutish, and shorter.

According to the links provided in the article...The polling data used to show those who voted Trump by around two to one shows whites without a college degree did in fact vote for Trump 66%/Clinton 29%. However this group comprised 34% of the total respondents, meaning this particular group comprised about 22% of the total. So if this group accounted for the 13M drop in uninsured people, how does Krugman arrive at we’re probably looking at more than five million? That number would be closer to 3M.
Secondly, how does he even back up this: many of whom have chronic health problems and recently got health insurance for the first time?
How many of these people have "chronic health problems"? How many of these people "recently got health insurance for the first time"? How many of these people that might have gotten insurance for the first time just got a new job that has benefits?
 
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