Good Jobs First Statement on Carrier Jobs Deal in Indiana

nhboy

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" Washington, DC, December 1, 2016--Good Jobs First executive director Greg LeRoy issued the following statement today regarding the announcement by President-elect Donald J. Trump that Carrier Corp. will retain some jobs in Indiana:

"As someone who became an accidental student of economic development incentives while creating a consulting practice against plant closings starting 32 years ago, I applaud this and every effort to save U.S. manufacturing jobs.

"However, nothing yet known about the subsidy deal assembled by Indiana Governor and Vice President-elect Mike Pence suggests that this case offers any systemic solution to the decades-long decline in U.S. manufacturing. Nothing about this deal challenges the longstanding elite consensus in America that capital is free to move: offshore, across town, or across a state line, with workers and their communities left behind to suffer declining living standards.

"I applaud former Indiana Lt. Gov. John Mutz for his candor to Politico, in which he indicates that Trump and Pence employed the leverage of Defense Department contracts with Carrier's parent company, United Technologies, to save some of the jobs that had been slated to move to Mexico. Otherwise an incentive package worth $700,000 per year could never outweigh $65 million in annual savings the company projected it would save by moving.

"Doing a one-off on a shutdown that happened to be announced during the primary campaign season is not a systemic solution to offshore job flight. Nor is Trump's proposal to cut the corporate income tax rate. Indeed, as Citizens for Tax Justice has documented, for a recent five-year period in which United Technologies was profitable every year, it paid an average rate of just 11 percent in federal income tax-less than a third of the often-cited but seldom-paid 35 percent statutory rate. Last year, it paid just 9.4 percent. "

http://www.goodjobsfirst.org/blog/good-jobs-first-statement-carrier-jobs-deal-indiana





 
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tommyjo

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Its not an "elite consensus that capital is free to move".

It is the foundational principle of our country.

People are free to move, people are free to change their employment, people are free to better themselves.

Capital is also free to move, businesses are free to grow, move and fail.

The deal Mr. Trump made was great for those 500 employees.

Here is the likely reality: the $7M that Mr. Pence gave to Carrier will simply reduce the cost of spending $16M to "update the facility". What will the upgrades do? Automate and Replace a large portion of those 500 jobs.

So in the end what will Mr. Trump have accomplished? The taxpayers of Indiana will have subsidized the destruction of some number of jobs thru the further automation of the plant.
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
Here is the likely reality: the $7M that Mr. Pence gave to Carrier will simply reduce the cost of spending $16M to "update the facility". What will the upgrades do? Automate and Replace a large portion of those 500 jobs.

Not finding him at fault for anything that has actually *happened* - you have to get worked up over idle conjecture.
You're going to have a fun four years. If you can all pissed over something that has only happened in your mind, imagine what reality will do.
 

somdwatch

Well-Known Member
Its not an "elite consensus that capital is free to move".

It is the foundational principle of our country.

People are free to move, people are free to change their employment, people are free to better themselves.

Capital is also free to move, businesses are free to grow, move and fail.

The deal Mr. Trump made was great for those 500 employees.

Here is the likely reality: the $7M that Mr. Pence gave to Carrier will simply reduce the cost of spending $16M to "update the facility". What will the upgrades do? Automate and Replace a large portion of those 500 jobs.

So in the end what will Mr. Trump have accomplished? The taxpayers of Indiana will have subsidized the destruction of some number of jobs thru the further automation of the plant.

The Idiot Savant speaks again. Too bad it's just your conjecture.
 
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