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    Millions more vets to be able to shop at exchanges online

    " After two years of study and debate, the Department of Defense has made a policy change, effective next November, to allow 16 million honorably discharged veterans to shop online for discounted military exchange products.

    Peter K. Levine, acting undersecretary of defense for personnel and readiness, signed a memorandum Wednesday announcing the benefit expansion, effective Veterans Day (Nov. 11), and giving Congress the required 30 days’ notice before actions begin to implement the plan.

    Months of preparation are needed to make e-shopping portals more robust and to allow the Defense Manpower Data Center (DMDC) time to create software for verifying veterans’ status using Department of Veterans Affairs records.

    Several million vets already are eligible to shop in exchanges — on base or online — because they are active or reserve component retirees, or 100 percent disabled from service-connected injuries or ailments, or Medal of Honor recipients.

    Thomas C. Shull, chief executive officer of the Army and Air Force Exchange Service, led a three-year quest to expand online exchange shopping to all honorably discharged veterans with access to computers. It cited two reasons.

    One was to reward their service with exchange product savings that, on average, will be near to 20 percent versus commercial department store prices when military exemption from state and local sales tax are considered too.

    Shull’s other purpose was to increase exchange revenues to help offset troubling declines due to the drawdown of active-duty forces, base closures and the end of military tobacco discounts for the higher priority of healthier populations. "

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    And they say Obama didn't do enough for vets...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Gude View Post
    And they say Obama didn't do enough for vets...
    I'm sorry, quitters shouldn't be rewarded with ALL of the same benefits retirees get,,

    This is purely money.. the Exchanges are going broke, they can't compete with Wal Mart..
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsbob View Post
    I'm sorry, quitters shouldn't be rewarded with ALL of the same benefits retirees get,,

    This is purely money.. the Exchanges are going broke, they can't compete with Wal Mart..
    I wish we had more vets and retirees in politics. I bet the word 'hero' would be thrown around a LOT less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Gude View Post
    I wish we had more vets and retirees in politics. I bet the word 'hero' would be thrown around a LOT less.
    Thought about this a little more on the ride home.. Again, politicians making decisions without thinking them through...

    Take PAX for instance.. Before they give Joe Schmoe that served 2 years over 30 years ago privileges what about all the people that are already on base and currently supporting the warfighter? They're already on base and would add much needed revenue to the facilities without much more stress on the base. I rember a case here on PAX hot summer day, he's working outside on base, goes to the gas station to get a drink they wouldn't let him buy a bottle of water... Stupid.. Beyond stupid.

    When you talk about giving EVERY veteran access you're talking about multiplying the people with access to the base 10 fold? 20 - 100 fold? All these people that could want access now need ID cards OR they have to hit the Visitors center every time they come on base.. And we all know how efficient the Visitors center and ID processing is.. It will be a nightmare and a huge cost to the base.

    With the majority of the population (if you are around a base) now having access security is going to be worthless. You don't need a security check now to get an ID just proof of service/ eligibility.. and of course they aren't going shopping alone, family and friends will come with them. Security will be so useless at that point get rid of the gate guards and up the Patrols..

    If only 25% of eligible users use the facilities it will be a major change to the landscape on base..

    Within a year the base facilities will look like a VA waiting room, and the active duty and retirees will probably stop using it just because they don't want to deal with it..

    Now families and nursing homes won't have to drive all the way to a local VA to turf their veterans. Just the nearest base with a food court.
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    " After two years of study and debate, the Department of Defense has made a policy change, effective next November, to allow 16 million honorably discharged veterans to shop online for discounted military exchange products.

    How does anyone need base access to shop "ONLINE"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blister View Post
    " After two years of study and debate, the Department of Defense has made a policy change, effective next November, to allow 16 million honorably discharged veterans to shop online for discounted military exchange products.

    How does anyone need base access to shop "ONLINE"?
    Don't point out the obvious stupidity of the natives...they get touchy when it is pointed out that they either can't or are too lazy to bother reading the original post.

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    Ooops.. Thats what I get for posting while asleep.

    But still the question(s) remain. Even Online, whats the cost going to be to set up the servers and the databases to confirm eligibility and then a system (a CAC Card perhaps) to ensure it's only the person eligible using it and not a stranger that he shared his username and password with?

    So it's not as easy as saying give EVERY veteran access (assumption being TommyJo STILL won't be eligible) it's another costly benefit.

    But I digress. In the end the PX/ BX/ NEX still won't be able to compete with Amazom or WalMart.. I can honestly say I have NEVER bought anything from any one of them online.

    Why would I?

    So huge costs to give EVERY veteran a benefit theyll probably never use.. YEAH team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommyjo View Post
    Don't point out the obvious stupidity of the natives...they get touchy when it is pointed out that they either can't or are too lazy to bother reading the original post.
    Was that an insult?

    I'm.man enough to admit I made a mistake.. Is your dad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsbob View Post
    Ooops.. Thats what I get for posting while asleep.

    But still the question(s) remain. Even Online, whats the cost going to be to set up the servers and the databases to confirm eligibility and then a system (a CAC Card perhaps) to ensure it's only the person eligible using it and not a stranger that he shared his username and password with?

    So it's not as easy as saying give EVERY veteran access (assumption being TommyJo STILL won't be eligible) it's another costly benefit.

    But I digress. In the end the PX/ BX/ NEX still won't be able to compete with Amazom or WalMart.. I can honestly say I have NEVER bought anything from any one of them online.

    Why would I?

    So huge costs to give EVERY veteran a benefit theyll probably never use.. YEAH team.
    It shouldn't be too hard to implement. If you served in the military, you have a DoD ID number in DEERS. Basically, when you make an account for online exchange access, it checks the information you provide against DEERS. How I would go about it is, if you take your DD214 (or other discharge papers showing Honorable Discharge) to your local Pass Office, they can grant Exchange privileges without issuing an ID. That way you can create the online exchange account but not have access to the base/post.
    I must agree, that I hardly use the Exchange because, even after the tax break, I can find what I want somewhere else for less.
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