I have never understood, nor has it been explained, why they wouldn't pass Kate's Law. O'Reilly and others have asked the antis and their answers were rigamarole BS that danced round the maypole and never addressed the question.
I have never understood, nor has it been explained, why they wouldn't pass Kate's Law. O'Reilly and others have asked the antis and their answers were rigamarole BS that danced round the maypole and never addressed the question.
I have never understood, nor has it been explained, why they wouldn't pass Kate's Law. O'Reilly and others have asked the antis and their answers were rigamarole BS that danced round the maypole and never addressed the question.
https://www.ncjrs.gov/criminal_justice2000/vol_1/02j.pdfAcademic study of immigrants that is limited to gangs and crime can serve only to promote the impression that immigrants are a crime-prone group—an image that the empirical research of the past 100 years does not support. In sum, this review suggests that native groups would profit from a better understanding
of how immigrant groups faced with adverse social conditions maintain relatively low levels of crime.
https://insight.kellogg.northwestern.edu/article/does_immigration_increase_crime“There’s essentially no correlation between immigrants and violent crime,” he asserts. Given some media depictions of immigrants as violent, or associated with human trafficking and the drug trade, this finding may come as a surprise to many, says Spenkuch. “There’s a long perception that immigration increases crime, and when you look at neighborhoods where lots of immigrants live, these are typically not the best neighborhoods. These are violent places. So there’s this anecdotal association [between immigrants and violent crime] that just doesn’t turn out to be true in the data.”
https://contexts.org/articles/files/2008/01/contexts_winter08_sampson.pdf...increases in immigration and language diversity over the decade of the 1990s predicted decreases in neighborhood homicide rates in the late '90s and up to 2006.
https://www.cato.org/blog/immigration-crime-what-research-saysBoth the Census-data driven studies and macro-level studies find that immigrants are less crime-prone than natives with some small potential exceptions. There are numerous reasons why immigrant criminality is lower than native criminality. One explanation is that immigrants who commit crimes can be deported and thus are punished more for criminal behavior, making them less likely to break the law.
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.go...t-immigration-accountability-executive-actionEven as we are a nation of immigrants, we’re also a nation of laws. Undocumented workers broke our immigration laws, and I believe that they must be held accountable -– especially those who may be dangerous. That’s why, over the past six years, deportations of criminals are up 80 percent. And that’s why we’re going to keep focusing enforcement resources on actual threats to our security. Felons, not families. Criminals, not children. Gang members, not a mom who’s working hard to provide for her kids. We’ll prioritize, just like law enforcement does every day.
ICE currently uses an exceedingly broad definition of criminal behavior: even very minor infractions are included. For example, anyone with a traffic ticket for exceeding the speed limit on the Baltimore-Washington Parkway who sends in their check to pay their fine has just entered ICE’s “convicted criminal” category. If the same definitions were applied to every citizen — rather than just to noncitizens — available evidence (see TRAC’s February 2012 report) suggests that the majority of U.S. citizens would be considered convicted criminals.
For example, the number of deportees convicted of vehicle theft was down by 27 percent. Robbery, burglary and forgery categories saw only a small increase — up 4 to 6 percent over this six year period. Although their numbers were small, declines also occurred for individuals convicted of arson (down 1 percent), embezzlement (down 14 percent) and bribery (down 41 percent).
What happened to Kate was horrible, but if one looks at the actual numbers will see that sanctuary cities
If it were true that these cities with more immigrants are more dangerous, how come El Paso, TX has the lowest murder rate of any city over 500,000 people while it sits across the Rio Grande from Mexico?
What's happening is the right is using Kate's tragedy to drum up this nativist sentiment across the country against a group of people who, for the most part, are law abiding people looking for a better life.
Now I'm sure someone will chime in and say that simply being here illegally is committing a crime. That's a valid argument, but it comes down to your personal belief that the law is more important than liberty.
I think it should be compared to gun laws. Whenever some jagoff shoots and kills someone we hear the gun control war cry from the left. The right tends to recognize, then anyway, that the chance of preventing an unpredictable crime, however unlikely, is not a good enough excuse to use government resources to restrict people’s lives.
Irrelevant, since it never should have happened at all. This man should not have been here - and he should have been locked up.
Several times. Try to imagine a pit bull attacking neighbors without being contained on his property - and then kills someone - and gets away with it.
Lies, damned lies etc (sorry, just quoting the phrase, nothing personal). Border cities have a MUCH GREATER law enforcement presence than others. Comparisons don't always work.
Secondly - I don't think anyone is trying to say that immigrant status contributes to crime, but illegal immigrants who COMMIT crime should not be able to dodge the law.
.. If you are deported, typically because you've committed a crime, and you jump the border to get back in, there will be a mandatory minimum sentence.
First paragraph and you can stop right there because anything after is working off a faulty premise.
The text of H. R. 3011 (Kate's Law):
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/3011/text
Short title:
Establishing Mandatory Minimums for Illegal Reentry Act of 2015
Summary:
"This bill amends the Immigration and Nationality Act to increase penalties applicable to aliens who unlawfully reenter the United States after being removed."
This law affects someone AFTER they have been deported. It has nothing whatsoever to do with law abiding immigrants, not even those here illegally. If you are deported, typically because you've committed a crime, and you jump the border to get back in, there will be a mandatory minimum sentence.
Now, it's possible that you didn't realize what Kate's Law actually says, which is understandable considering the enormous amount of spin and outright lying the Left and their media cohorts have been peddling. But now that you know exactly what the law says, are you prepared to change your stance?
I'd like to know how it's built on a faulty premise. Some immigrant lunatic shoots a woman and we say "we should limit immigrants!". In the same token, some American lunatic shoots a bunch of kids and we don't say "we should limit guns!".
I'd like to know how it's built on a faulty premise. Some immigrant lunatic shoots a woman and we say "we should limit immigrants!".
There you go again. That's not what Kate's Law says. Not even close.
Typically, police arrest someone for DUI, or some other offense. After being arrested, fingerprints are ran through ICE databases and if found to be illegal, ICE asks the jail top hold them for 48 hours so they can get a warrant and start the deportation proceedings. The trouble comes in, for ICE anyway, because keeping someone in jail for 48 hours without a warrant violates the 4th Amendment. .
What do you think drove the creation of Kate's Law?
Hopefully you help me out here, as it may take some back and forth for us to be on the same page.
My question is, and I really do not know, does the 4th Amendment apply to illegal aliens? I thought it was for American citizens.
Kate's Law came about when an illegal immigrant was deported numerous times after various criminal activity. Because San Francisco, where this took place, is a sanctuary city, officials didn't not prosecute this man. In July 2015, he shot and killed Kate Steinle; that case goes to trial next month.
What do I win?
Okay, so an illegal immigrant shot and killed a woman so this bill was created to try and stop it from happening again. Would you agree?
As with most of Trump's ideas and plans, it's a bit more complicated than he makes it seem ...