Quote Originally Posted by vraiblonde View Post
Some dumbass on my friend's FB was calling for civil war. I told him that was the dumbest thing I ever heard and that apparently he is unaware of what happened last time we had one of those. He said, "Yeah, the progressives won!" I replied, "No, the federal government won."

No response after that.
Sorry. He's right. The abolitionists were very much the radicals, the progressives of the day. They were VERY much for using the power of the federal gummint, then as today, to get what they wanted, Constitution be damned. You could argue the gummint did the work but they, the radicals, the progressives, controlled it. They ran it. They owned it for a time.