NYT History Revision

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
http://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/the-new-york-times-rewrites-history-to-tarnish-trump/


"By contrast," the story goes on, "when Mr. Obama took office, the country was losing 700,000 jobs a month, and the global financial system was teetering on the edge of collapse. By the time he stepped up to the rostrum for his first joint congressional address on Feb. 24, 2009, he had already accrued an impressive string of accomplishments, including the passage of a massive stimulus bill through the Democratic-controlled Congress, a gender pay-parity act, a children's health insurance law and executive actions that would ultimately help stabilize the financial and automotive sectors. With the prospect of a second Great Depression still high, Mr. Obama sought to rally the country."

That's a nice bit of revisionist history. Let's review:

"With the prospect of a second Great Depression still high."

This is depiction of events makes Obama look like the hero whose smart and swift interventions prevented another Depression. But it's not true.

The economy had already started to stabilize before Obama was sworn in, as indicated by monthly real GDP numbers compiled by Macroeconomic Advisers. The worst monthly declines were behind us before Obama was sworn in, and the recession officially ended just five months after he took office, but before most of his stimulus and other policies could have much of an impact.

What's more, an analysis of what ended the recession by economists Alan Blinder and Mark Zandi credited the $700 billion TARP program — signed into law by President Bush — and aggressive actions taken by the Fed — starting in 2008 — as being "substantially more powerful" in bringing the recession to an end than anything Obama did.

As to job losses, those also started to dissipate well before the bulk of Obama's stimulus money had been spent.
 

Wishbone

New Member
They should speak to Pelosi, she had that number pegged at 500,000,000 Americans losing their jobs each month.
 

stgislander

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member
What's more, an analysis of what ended the recession by economists Alan Blinder and Mark Zandi credited the $700 billion TARP program — signed into law by President Bush — and aggressive actions taken by the Fed — starting in 2008 — as being "substantially more powerful" in bringing the recession to an end than anything Obama did.

Larry's not going to like this. :coffee:
 

tommyjo

New Member
Some additional commentary:

http://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/the-new-york-times-rewrites-history-to-tarnish-trump/

"By contrast," the story goes on, "when Mr. Obama took office, the country was losing 700,000 jobs a month, and the global financial system was teetering on the edge of collapse. By the time he stepped up to the rostrum for his first joint congressional address on Feb. 24, 2009, he had already accrued an impressive string of accomplishments, including the passage of a massive stimulus bill through the Democratic-controlled Congress, a gender pay-parity act, a children's health insurance law and executive actions that would ultimately help stabilize the financial and automotive sectors. With the prospect of a second Great Depression still high, Mr. Obama sought to rally the country."

That's a nice bit of revisionist history. Let's review:

"With the prospect of a second Great Depression still high."

This is depiction of events makes Obama look like the hero whose smart and swift interventions prevented another Depression. But it's not true.

The economy had already started to stabilize before Obama was sworn in, as indicated by monthly real GDP numbers compiled by Macroeconomic Advisers. The worst monthly declines were behind us before Obama was sworn in, and the recession officially ended just five months after he took office, but before most of his stimulus and other policies could have much of an impact.

That is quite revisionist in and of itself. Yes the economy was beginning to stabilize by Fe 2009. Was it stable? No...not even close. Note the wording used "the prospect of a second Great Depression still high". The US economy was not, as this article tries to insinuate, out of the woods and clear of trouble. We were still losing jobs in Feb 2009...the economy was still contracting in Feb 2009...the economies of many of the rest of the developed world were still in free fall.

What's more, an analysis of what ended the recession by economists Alan Blinder and Mark Zandi credited the $700 billion TARP program — signed into law by President Bush — and aggressive actions taken by the Fed — starting in 2008 — as being "substantially more powerful" in bringing the recession to an end than anything Obama did.
TARP was a critical component. The actions of the Federal Reserve Board under Mr. Bernanke were also critical. BTW...Mr. Bush 43 only distributed half of the TARP money...the other half was left for Mr. Obama to utilize...

As to job losses, those also started to dissipate well before the bulk of Obama's stimulus money had been spent.
Again...this is an ignorant depiction. Please go back and look at what most of the stimulus did and was intended to do. No...why would anyone do that...we wouldn't want any of you to actually LEARN anything...now would be. Besides all you dumbasses can do is bash Ds...while at the same time crying that poor Donald isn't getting a fair shake...
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
Again...this is an ignorant depiction. Please go back and look at what most of the stimulus did and was intended to do. ..

Did. Take another look...

unemployment-romerchart-0710.jpg
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
Some additional commentary:

That is quite revisionist in and of itself. Yes the economy was beginning to stabilize by Fe 2009. Was it stable? No...not even close. Note the wording used "the prospect of a second Great Depression still high". The US economy was not, as this article tries to insinuate, out of the woods and clear of trouble. We were still losing jobs in Feb 2009...the economy was still contracting in Feb 2009...the economies of many of the rest of the developed world were still in free fall.

TARP was a critical component. The actions of the Federal Reserve Board under Mr. Bernanke were also critical. BTW...Mr. Bush 43 only distributed half of the TARP money...the other half was left for Mr. Obama to utilize...

Again...this is an ignorant depiction. Please go back and look at what most of the stimulus did and was intended to do. No...why would anyone do that...we wouldn't want any of you to actually LEARN anything...now would be. Besides all you dumbasses can do is bash Ds...while at the same time crying that poor Donald isn't getting a fair shake...

Yes Obama did a great job with TARP money. Remember he pissed away 3 billion dollars on cash for Clunkers.
 
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